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Burger King is introducing a vegetarian patty from the start-up Impossible Foods

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Post by benj111 »

bbrian wrote: post #217
alpaca128 wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just out of interest, what's the reasoning behind a strict separation of the two? I understand it in the case of gluten free products because that can really have health implications, but when you are vegan for ethical reasons it shouldn't make a difference, right? But I'd say this is great news either way. I like meat, but when there's a way to get the same taste and texture without the bad consequences for animals…

Some people seem to go vegan because they're emotionally off-kilter. I'm in a few vegan Facebook groups and I've seen posts where people are way over-reacting to food cooked on the same surface, or talking about their emotional breakdown over the suffering of animals. I'm vegan almost two years and I'm pretty sure I ate mayo on a burger two weeks ago. I ordered it explicitly without, but sending it back would just cr…

Interesting. Speaking as a carnivore, I find eating human flesh morally wrong, and would be quite insulted if someone cooked my burger next to some 'man' burger.

So I can understand their point of view.

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Post by saagarjha »

bbrian wrote: post #217
alpaca128 wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just out of interest, what's the reasoning behind a strict separation of the two? I understand it in the case of gluten free products because that can really have health implications, but when you are vegan for ethical reasons it shouldn't make a difference, right? But I'd say this is great news either way. I like meat, but when there's a way to get the same taste and texture without the bad consequences for animals…

Some people seem to go vegan because they're emotionally off-kilter. I'm in a few vegan Facebook groups and I've seen posts where people are way over-reacting to food cooked on the same surface, or talking about their emotional breakdown over the suffering of animals. I'm vegan almost two years and I'm pretty sure I ate mayo on a burger two weeks ago. I ordered it explicitly without, but sending it back would just cr…

> Some people seem to go vegan because they're emotionally off-kilter.

And a lot of people have religious reasons for not eating meat.

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Post by marzell »

Accacin wrote: post #168

I'd like to add that I see a lot of people saying, "If you're vegetarian/vegan why are you going Burger King?" - Well, I don't go often, but on the off chance that I'm with some friends and they go to a fast-food restaurant, it's much easier and less awkward if there's something I can eat too.

It's similar to saying, "if you care about your health, why are you going to Burger King". We all make compromises (not saying vegans eat meat though) so I think this is a fair analogy... as an omnivore, I like that if I do decide to compromise and get food from a fast food restaurant, I at least have this as another option that seems healthier for me and the environment than other options on their menu. FWIW I've tried the Beyond Burger at Carl's Jr. and liked it for the same reasons. I enjoyed it and would consider getting it again if I went there in the future.

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Post by josefresco »

nickik wrote: post #208
josefresco wrote: post #115

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Nutrition facts: https://faq.impossiblefoods.com/hc/en-us/articles/3600189392... Ingredients: https://faq.impossiblefoods.com/hc/en-us/articles/3600189374... Saturated fat numbers don't look great. Also, TONS of salt which isn't great either. sigh oh well, maybe some day.

That saturated fat and salt are bad has been falling out of favor scientifically for a long time. They specifically built the burger to be like a normal burger because many people actually consider it a healthy thing to eat.

I should have chosen my words more carefully. It's about the big picture. You can keep it easy by choosing a diet with fresh fruits and vegetables, whole grains, fish, nuts, and unsaturated fats.

Apologize for the late edit (home now) but you might want to scrutinize closer your sources on saturated fat:

https://nutritionfacts.org/video/the-saturated-fat-studies-s...

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Post by mistersys »

This is so important. I do eat meat (actually quit a lot right now due to health experiments) and I don't think the vegetarian movement will significantly reduce our meat consumption.

While I can't argue that animals should have the same rights as humans, I believe our psychology is wired for empathy even of animals and that may be the only "collectively objective' moral compass we have as humans.

The better we treat animals, the more resources we consume to produce meat. Lab-grown meat startups IMO have incredible potential to not only solve this problem but also make high quality meat incredible cheap. Great space to follow.

Note: of coarse the impossible burger isn't lab-grown, but they're working on that.

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Post by josefresco »

astura wrote: post #182
josefresco wrote: post #127

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My diet is specifically about reducing inflammation. Low sugar, low salt, mostly plant based. There is much reason to believe salt is bad for you.

How do you know if you have "inflammation" or not?

Blood tests. However, what spurred me have blood tests in the first place were symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis (in my case: painful swelling of the joints).

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Post by brandonmenc »

scott_s wrote: post #174

The Impossible Burger is the best veggie burger I've ever had. I was a vegetarian for 10 years, and have now been a pescatarian for 8 years. It has been 18 years since I have had a proper cheeseburger, and since then I have had many thousands of veggie burgers. Cheeseburgers are probably my favorite food, and I haven't had one in 18 years. If someone told me that the world would end tomorrow, I would go out and eat a…

It's a good start, but it's so, so oily, even compared to a meat burger - and the oil seeps out all over the place. It's such a mess that I eat them with a fork.

I'd rather eat something like a black bean burger, but I also eat meat so I'm not looking for my vegetable burgers replicate the experience.

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Post by screye »

Accacin wrote: post #168

I'd like to add that I see a lot of people saying, "If you're vegetarian/vegan why are you going Burger King?" - Well, I don't go often, but on the off chance that I'm with some friends and they go to a fast-food restaurant, it's much easier and less awkward if there's something I can eat too.

That being said, I'm surprised that they haven't tried selling burgers with veg patties, that they already sell in India.

Ofc they do not taste like meat, and aren't supposed to taste like meat. But, damn, do they taste good on their own.

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Post by hokkos »

jackbrookes wrote: post #111
yumraj wrote: post #90

I'm curious as to how Impossible burger compares on the health impact. I understand that it's plant based, but it seems to be highly processed and perhaps (not sure) loaded with bunch of chemicals and potentially unhealthy ingredients that make it taste like meat. Hopefully that is not the case and it's not just a meat substitute but is also healthy. Can anyone with more details please opine?

What makes you think "processed" and "chemicals" are bad for you?

Some of the biggest and best studies on nutrition told us that processed food is not very good for us :

Study links heavily processed foods to risk of earlier death https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/feb/11/study-links-...

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Post by magduf »

bzbarsky wrote: post #236
iheartpotatoes wrote: post #145

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Right. But there's a difference between drinking a glass of water and glass of bleach. You are claiming they are equivalent. There's something called "context" in reading comprehension, it is when words take on the meaning relevant to the discussion. In this case, "chemicals" is shorthand for "bad chemicals." I don't understand why so many people fail to understand this and have to make this inane, childish observati…

> In this case, "chemicals" is shorthand for "bad chemicals." One problem is that lots of people include tons of known harmless stuff under "bad chemicals" because it's "artificial" (even if it's chemically identical to "natural" things that they praise at the same time). Or put another way, the use of "chemicals" in discussions like this often suffers from the problem described at " rel="nofollow">https://rationalwi…

>One problem is that lots of people include tons of known harmless stuff under "bad chemicals" because it's "artificial" (even if it's chemically identical to "natural" things that they praise at the same time).

People who believe in homeopathy don't believe this, since they believe that purified water has "memory", so logically they would also think that naturally-derived and artificially-derived but otherwise identical chemicals would somehow be different from one another.

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