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It appears wasteful. Being deadlocked, spending multiples of $100k on ceremonies. The group should be promoting the language and getting people excited about it's use. Instead, French speakers feel guilty when they say 'email' instead of 'courriel' because an ineffectual body refused to admit an Englishism into the language. This holds the language back. Languages are fluid, living breathing things and that aspect sh…
They should feel very guilty of confusing "numerique" and "digital" all the time. In French, 'numerique' generally means 'digital' and 'digital' only means related to fingers (e.g. fingerprint is 'empreinte digitale').
I am in favor of using digital in french (we learn to count with fingers after all).
Everyone understands french evolves with usage and must take some influence abroad, and nobody ever refused a word because a 90yo grandpa was slow to add it to their unpublished dictionary...
As a french guy, I sense some kind of disdain for the Académie Française that I don't really get. The evolution of the french language is not dictated by the Académie, but rather by its use by the french people, and the role of the Académie is merely to decide what should or shouldn't be set in stone in the dictionary. And in fact the usage of the french language is quite diverse, even in France. You can have regiona…
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But the Dutch have it as well and no one goes on and on about it.
That's because we mostly just ignore them.
It’s just an english habit of bashing an idiotic gallicism, just like we find their queen concept surreal and idiotic ahah
As a french guy, I sense some kind of disdain for the Académie Française that I don't really get. The evolution of the french language is not dictated by the Académie, but rather by its use by the french people, and the role of the Académie is merely to decide what should or shouldn't be set in stone in the dictionary. And in fact the usage of the french language is quite diverse, even in France. You can have regiona…
It appears wasteful. Being deadlocked, spending multiples of $100k on ceremonies. The group should be promoting the language and getting people excited about it's use. Instead, French speakers feel guilty when they say 'email' instead of 'courriel' because an ineffectual body refused to admit an Englishism into the language. This holds the language back. Languages are fluid, living breathing things and that aspect sh…
Using courriel was somewhat funny and snobbish but people used them to be fun and snobbish, not because the law of the academy mattered to them.
I think we care about grammar a lot more than english vocabulary, and it’s been fading quite a lot the last few centuries anyway.
As a french guy, I sense some kind of disdain for the Académie Française that I don't really get. The evolution of the french language is not dictated by the Académie, but rather by its use by the french people, and the role of the Académie is merely to decide what should or shouldn't be set in stone in the dictionary. And in fact the usage of the french language is quite diverse, even in France. You can have regiona…
I think what you're seeing is partially due to the misperception that you described, and partially due to the relatively (and, yeah, variably) anti-authoritarian nature of anglo-saxon culture.
Also, I'm not sure the idea of trying to keep loanwords out of one's language makes much sense to someone who grows up speaking a language composed almost entirely of loanwords. So that might be why you see so much fixation on that aspect of the Académie.
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It appears wasteful. Being deadlocked, spending multiples of $100k on ceremonies. The group should be promoting the language and getting people excited about it's use. Instead, French speakers feel guilty when they say 'email' instead of 'courriel' because an ineffectual body refused to admit an Englishism into the language. This holds the language back. Languages are fluid, living breathing things and that aspect sh…
> French speakers feel guilty when they say 'email' instead of 'courriel' "Courriel" is the word proposed by the Québec institution (OQLF). It is used in France as well, but not as much as "email", which nobody feels guilty about. Courriel is also a newly coined word, and an elegant one as well, so it fits right into your "languages are fluid, living breathing things" remark.
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You know what rubs MY nose? When people misuse language and then treat any correction as something snobby. Typical argument from someone who just wrote "could of", or mixed you're with your: "Oh but language is to communicate, and you understood what I'm saying so it worked so stop being snobby about it" gah, makes my blood boil
You haven’t explained what’s actually wrong with their argument. Language is a human cultural phenomenon, it’s not math or programming. Who are you to say whether it’s right or wrong? There is a certain variety of English that a certain social class of people have decided is “standard”, but why does that make it objectively correct?
Language has rules (They were taught to us in school). They might change over time but they still exist.
I'm sure that many "could of"s have been made official over the eons in all languages, (thanks to general ignorance/incompetence/refusal to learn) but that doesn't mean we should respect "couldofers" (see? I made up a word, I'm not that rigid) as if they're the next Shakespeare...
Iz their know point at witch "human caltoural fenonemon" stops and blatant misuse starts? Would you not draw the line somewhere?
I draw it at "you're/your/couldof" etc and it infuriates me because, not only these people offload a significant part of the work of communication to me, but they have the nerve to consider themselves somehow superior.