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Ask HN: How much did you make from your startup's IPO?

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Re: Ask HN: How much did you make from your startup's IPO?

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I was one of the first 5 employees at a YC unicorn. They haven't had an IPO yet, but it's getting closer. My original offer was for 0.5% of the company, but I didn't vest all of my shares before leaving. The shares are currently worth about $1.5M, and I'm hoping that they will be worth about $3-5M after the IPO and lockup period. My salary was $120K and I relocated to SF from a different country, so I don't really fe…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYt5yuiGk9E&feature=youtu.be...

Minor frustration: Someone in the <5 employee count deserves more equity. Yes that % is pretty common, but I think that's wrong.

Re: Ask HN: How much did you make from your startup's IPO?

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I was one of the first 5 employees at a YC unicorn. They haven't had an IPO yet, but it's getting closer. My original offer was for 0.5% of the company, but I didn't vest all of my shares before leaving. The shares are currently worth about $1.5M, and I'm hoping that they will be worth about $3-5M after the IPO and lockup period. My salary was $120K and I relocated to SF from a different country, so I don't really fe…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYt5yuiGk9E&feature=youtu.be... Minor frustration: Someone in the <5 employee count deserves more equity. Yes that % is pretty common, but I think that's wrong.

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Re: Ask HN: How much did you make from your startup's IPO?

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I was one of the first 5 employees at a YC unicorn. They haven't had an IPO yet, but it's getting closer. My original offer was for 0.5% of the company, but I didn't vest all of my shares before leaving. The shares are currently worth about $1.5M, and I'm hoping that they will be worth about $3-5M after the IPO and lockup period. My salary was $120K and I relocated to SF from a different country, so I don't really fe…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYt5yuiGk9E&feature=youtu.be... Minor frustration: Someone in the <5 employee count deserves more equity. Yes that % is pretty common, but I think that's wrong.

Thanks, that was a great video!

I actually think the 0.5% was very fair, or even generous. I didn't have much startup experience before that, and it was my first "real" job. They were also taking a big gamble with the relocation and immigration lawyer fees.

The other thing is that more equity probably wouldn't have motivated me to stay longer, unless I was a cofounder. I really didn't enjoy working for the company. I felt like I didn't really have any impact on anything, the company didn't really need me, and I just didn't like the company culture very much. So I tried to estimate how many shares I would need to hit my early retirement target ($3M), and I left after I had vested enough shares.

I knew that the company would be very successful, and I left a huge amount of money on the table, but I have zero regrets. I've been much happier since I left, and it's been much more fun to work on my own startups.

Re: Ask HN: How much did you make from your startup's IPO?

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I was around employee 100. Had options that were worth about 1.5 million at the peak, then the internet bubble popped and by the time I was fully vested and able to sell it was maybe 1/10th that--$150K or so.

In hindsight, I could have shorted the stock at the peak to lock in the price of the unvested shares.

The whole experience makes me think most engineers should value options at basically zero. Save an aggressive part of your regular salary so you can retire by 50 years old. If you get a windfall great, if you don't you are working on a strategy to become wealthy with a near 100% success rate.

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I worked at Uber starting in 2015 for 2 years. Not going to give numbers and I have not been following secondary markets but the company was already valued at $70b or so back then and I don’t think there’s been meaningful movement in the valuation since then. Point is people who joined even 4 years ago aren’t exactly making a huge multiple of their initial grant. Lyft’s IPO bodes well though for Uber stock. We’ll see…

Good point, but properly priced ISOs should have a discount of about 2/3rd the value of the preferred stock (as determined by the previous Series-* funding round) at the time of grant. So even if the valuation hasn't changed, most peoples' options should still mint a pretty penny if they were priced according to typical practice. I don't know anything about Uber. For reference, "What’s a Fair 409A Discount?": https:/…

Uber started awarding RSUs at end of 2014

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I was around employee 100. Had options that were worth about 1.5 million at the peak, then the internet bubble popped and by the time I was fully vested and able to sell it was maybe 1/10th that--$150K or so. In hindsight, I could have shorted the stock at the peak to lock in the price of the unvested shares. The whole experience makes me think most engineers should value options at basically zero. Save an aggressive…

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I was around employee 100. Had options that were worth about 1.5 million at the peak, then the internet bubble popped and by the time I was fully vested and able to sell it was maybe 1/10th that--$150K or so. In hindsight, I could have shorted the stock at the peak to lock in the price of the unvested shares. The whole experience makes me think most engineers should value options at basically zero. Save an aggressive…

The current tech boom is nothing like the dot-com bubble...

Re: Ask HN: How much did you make from your startup's IPO?

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I was around employee 100. Had options that were worth about 1.5 million at the peak, then the internet bubble popped and by the time I was fully vested and able to sell it was maybe 1/10th that--$150K or so. In hindsight, I could have shorted the stock at the peak to lock in the price of the unvested shares. The whole experience makes me think most engineers should value options at basically zero. Save an aggressive…

Not an IPO but I was hired by a company that was supposed to extend me an offer including stock options, unfortunately there was miscommunication about shares vs options, netting me 1/100th of what I expected. I was so angry I seriously considered taking a short position against the original amount of stock I was promised, but in the end it just didn't feel right to bet against my employer. A year later and their stock had dropped from $43 to 50 cents which would have netted a huge windfall. The money would have been nice but I don't regret standing on principle.

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I was around employee 100. Had options that were worth about 1.5 million at the peak, then the internet bubble popped and by the time I was fully vested and able to sell it was maybe 1/10th that--$150K or so. In hindsight, I could have shorted the stock at the peak to lock in the price of the unvested shares. The whole experience makes me think most engineers should value options at basically zero. Save an aggressive…

Not an IPO but I was hired by a company that was supposed to extend me an offer including stock options, unfortunately there was miscommunication about shares vs options, netting me 1/100th of what I expected. I was so angry I seriously considered taking a short position against the original amount of stock I was promised, but in the end it just didn't feel right to bet against my employer. A year later and their sto…

I agree with you.

My short would not have been a bet against my employer, more about being satisfied with turning paper gains into locked in, real money gains.

Re: Ask HN: How much did you make from your startup's IPO?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good point, but properly priced ISOs should have a discount of about 2/3rd the value of the preferred stock (as determined by the previous Series-* funding round) at the time of grant. So even if the valuation hasn't changed, most peoples' options should still mint a pretty penny if they were priced according to typical practice. I don't know anything about Uber. For reference, "What’s a Fair 409A Discount?": https:/…

Uber started awarding RSUs at end of 2014

Ohh, right, RSUs. Never been at a pre-IPO company that granted those. So, if I understand correctly, people will be getting the full value of their grant, you're just saying that people won't be getting huge multipliers of their grant. Based on various blog posts from around 2015-2016 I'd guess the average grant for a non-junior engineer was in the $1 million range.
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