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Abe explains choice of Reiwa for next era name

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Re: Abe explains choice of Reiwa for next era name

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I think the biggest problem is that if you type "reiwa" in an IME, 令和 wouldn't be shown as a suggestion because it wasn't a real word before. You'd have to write each character separately. Also speaking of Abe I saw a joke that you could see アベ in the era name if you look closely. http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/animanmatome/imgs/5/f/5fa3bffe-s....

Wouldn't the IME remember it for next time? And IME updates include it? So at most type it explicitly as two characters once per IME/device?

Re: Abe explains choice of Reiwa for next era name

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Amusingly there's a pun here on "Zero-sum Era". This because "rei" is a common way to read the numeral zero, and "zero-wa" (using the same "wa" from the new era name) is the Japanese term for "zero-sum".

No, because nobody cares about the sound. The kanji matters. Soundwise there are tons of kanji with the exact same pronounciation so there is no pun to be found.

Most of japanese puns literally lean on the fact some words sound the same or really similar.

Re: Abe explains choice of Reiwa for next era name

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post #57

I think the biggest problem is that if you type "reiwa" in an IME, 令和 wouldn't be shown as a suggestion because it wasn't a real word before. You'd have to write each character separately. Also speaking of Abe I saw a joke that you could see アベ in the era name if you look closely. http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/animanmatome/imgs/5/f/5fa3bffe-s....

I did have to input the characters one by one the first time. Not afterwards. IMEs are usually good at this game.

Re: Abe explains choice of Reiwa for next era name

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thankfully I don't live in Japan and have to deal with that system on a daily basis.

It's been thirty years since anyone has to touch that code.

Some systems are even still on the previous era (shōwa). Some may even hit a Y2K-like problem in 2025 (shōwa 100).

Re: Abe explains choice of Reiwa for next era name

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post #61
post #57

I think the biggest problem is that if you type "reiwa" in an IME, 令和 wouldn't be shown as a suggestion because it wasn't a real word before. You'd have to write each character separately. Also speaking of Abe I saw a joke that you could see アベ in the era name if you look closely. http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/animanmatome/imgs/5/f/5fa3bffe-s....

Wouldn't the IME remember it for next time? And IME updates include it? So at most type it explicitly as two characters once per IME/device?

Yes, yes, and mostly yes.

This is no different from entering a name of someone written with a less common combination of kanji. You can either enter the word phonetically and pick the kanji you want (this trains the IME), or manually add an IME dictionary entry.

I fully expect all IME's in common use to have updates for this within days, if not already.

Re: Abe explains choice of Reiwa for next era name

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I'm a chinese speaker, this new era name sounds kind of weird. When written in kanji, the previous nengos (meiji, taisho, showa, heisei) makes sense, and you can kind of tell the message it tries to convey. It just feels weird to me to concatenate "rei" and "wa" together.

This may be due to the fact that previous era names had its source in Chinese literature. Reiwa, on the other hand, comes from passage that appears in Manyoshu poetry collection.

It's not even a word in Manyōshū. It's two characters taken from two words in a sentence from there, 令月 and 和ぎ.

Re: Abe explains choice of Reiwa for next era name

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Anyone else gets display issues with 令? It shows up incorrectly in certain android locations (keyboard, hangouts) but looks fine in firefox. The stroke order illustration on jisho also has the last stroke wrong [1] [1] https://jisho.org/search/%E4%BB%A4%20%23kanji

Jisho does not have the last stroke wrong, that is how you write the kanji. The way it is represented in computer fonts is different than how it is hand written. The jisho instructions show how to hand write it.

The confusion probably stems from the way it is written in the calligraphic representation of 令和 presented by the government, which does do the same vertical stroke as in print.

In normal handwriting マ is totally fine and common.

Re: Abe explains choice of Reiwa for next era name

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post #57

I think the biggest problem is that if you type "reiwa" in an IME, 令和 wouldn't be shown as a suggestion because it wasn't a real word before. You'd have to write each character separately. Also speaking of Abe I saw a joke that you could see アベ in the era name if you look closely. http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/animanmatome/imgs/5/f/5fa3bffe-s....

I'm pretty sure IME updates take care of it just fine... when I woke up this morning and tried out Microsoft's Japanese IME after finding out the new era name, れいわ became 令和 on the first try - no messing around with the "misconversion" data necessary.

Despite that, Gboard's Japanese version hasn't caught up yet, but I imagine that'll be updated fairly quickly, either manually or OTA.

Re: Abe explains choice of Reiwa for next era name

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This is stupid. Make no mistake: this is not the Japanese "culture". Most private organizations in Japan have already switched to the Western calendar, and its only user is the Japanese government (although it's one of the biggest ones, sadly). They should stop wasting their time and energy for this farce. And yes, one could argue that this will create extra IT jobs that would be unnecessary if they abandoned the sys…

At least 80% of the forms I fill out in Japan will ask for era year. It’s easier for me to say aloud, too: “showa yon jū hachi” versus “sen kyū hyaku nana jū san nen”.
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