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Analyst who exposed Vancouver's real estate disaster

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Re: Analyst who exposed Vancouver's real estate disaster

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> Yan says there may be some solution—a mix of remedies, new laws, purpose-built rental housing, tax adjustments and so on—that does not mean a collapse in Metro Vancouver’s real estate prices. There never will be a solution because no one will vote for a government that will bring down the value of their home.

I never understood the point of having a 'high-value' home that you can't sell anyway because you need a place to live. Sure, you can say you can move somewhere cheaper and pocket the difference. The problem is that until you actually do that, the cost of living will likely follow the property price increase and hurt your wallet. Unless most of the homeowners own more than one property.

Home equity line of credit (HELOC) rates are cheaper than credit cards so can finance large purchases w/ the equity in your home.

Re: Analyst who exposed Vancouver's real estate disaster

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Not just Sad but also self-imposed. If outside investors and outside countries were buying up all our jeans, cars, tvs and junk foods, we'd be celebrating it all day long. in fact, we even blame other countries for not buying enough of our stuff (balance of trade debate). And yet, when it comes to real estate we act like we can't make more of it. The vast majority of land out there is still unbuilt. Simply start anot…

Part of what makes cities nice is people actually living in housing. If a neighborhood is significantly underoccupied by residents it kills local businesses that need foot traffic, increases social isolation, and decreases perceived safety. In practice new planned cities work out badly, because location is everything and cities need an underlying reason to exist. Residents don’t want to move to a place with no jobs,…

You just need jobs. Companies respond to incentives, so just make the initial incentives really really advantageous and i'm sure those jobs will show up. Just look at all the trouble a company like Amazon goes through to eek out every last bit of tax advantage, going so far as to have every city in the country bid on it! Once the jobs show up, people will move there.

Re: Analyst who exposed Vancouver's real estate disaster

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Part of what makes cities nice is people actually living in housing. If a neighborhood is significantly underoccupied by residents it kills local businesses that need foot traffic, increases social isolation, and decreases perceived safety. In practice new planned cities work out badly, because location is everything and cities need an underlying reason to exist. Residents don’t want to move to a place with no jobs,…

You just need jobs. Companies respond to incentives, so just make the initial incentives really really advantageous and i'm sure those jobs will show up. Just look at all the trouble a company like Amazon goes through to eek out every last bit of tax advantage, going so far as to have every city in the country bid on it! Once the jobs show up, people will move there.

Employees will not relocate to undesirable places. UBS had to relocate its headquarters back to New York City from Stamford because it could not recruit people willing to live, or schlep to the Connecticut suburbs. https://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/09/nyregion/ubs-may-move-bac...

Re: Analyst who exposed Vancouver's real estate disaster

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I wish they just did not sell to foreign investors. And yes I would be fine if other countries did the same, why do I need to own a place in 'x' country? This is, again, capitalism at the expense of the people who actually live in the region. I am not against immigration and owning property but a person or organization who are simply buying up property just to make a profit and have no intention of ever living there…

I don't understand, why can't we simply build more cities? If people are so willing to pay for it, I'm sure there's people who want the jobs. It just seems like such a waste of opportunity

We don’t even need to build more cities: we can build more density in existing cities. Vancouver has lots of Neighbourhoods with nothing but single family homes. Add more townhouses and low-rise apartment buildings and the population of Vancouver could double. But people cling enviously to their driveway & backyard close to downtown.

Re: Analyst who exposed Vancouver's real estate disaster

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Foreign investors buy US property because (a) they get a lot of dollars in exchange for all the TVs, cellphones and underpants we somehow cannot manufacture ourselves and (b) US doesn't have much else to offer. US cars? They're "okay" at best. US electronics? Come on, when have you seen a piece of electronic made in the USA last time? We should fight the cause, not the effect.

Chinese people invest in property because they don’t have good experiences with their home financial markets, know-your-customer is a burden, and because it is hard to invest internationally. Everyone else is fine with stocks and bonds and funds and such. The rest of the world has been asking China to free capital markets for a long time, but there’s not much we can do if the Party doesn’t want to.

Also in Canada there is 0% capital gains tax on your primary residence.

Re: Analyst who exposed Vancouver's real estate disaster

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> Yan says there may be some solution—a mix of remedies, new laws, purpose-built rental housing, tax adjustments and so on—that does not mean a collapse in Metro Vancouver’s real estate prices. There never will be a solution because no one will vote for a government that will bring down the value of their home.

I’m guessing most folks in Vancouver aren’t millionaires though, so as long as the policy only impacts millionaires it may not be as politically unpalatable as deliberately crashing home values for everyone.

Surprisingly a large percentage of families in Vancouver are millionaires.

But it’s all from real estate appreciating.

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