We’ve had this (or something similar) at Amsterdam Schiphol for a while now. With the scanners here, everything stays in the bag, electronics and liquids. The time savings are quite noticeable, because people are so slow at taking apart their baggage. Now they just throw on their bag, take off their coat, and maybe their boots, and they’re done, easily saving 1/3 of the time spent at other airport security lines.
Laptops to Stay in Bags as TSA Brings New Technology to Airports
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#172And it only took 17 years for them to figure out a way to make it happen! Who says America can’t get things done anymore.
You done goofed
Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News? You've been doing it a lot, and we eventually ban accounts that do that.
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#173Earlier quoted context omitted.
My favorite lines to use: "Whoa.. whatever you just did, do it again." or "Can I have her give me the pat down instead?" And you can really irritate them if you say the little spiel along with them. It rattles them.
Please don't irritate the TSA agents. If they don't get you for it, they will take it out on everyone behind you. Instead, write your congresscritters. Nearly all of them fly every week, so they feel your pain.
It would have been nice if that guy had actually hit me. We could've replaced him with someone with manners.
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#174Earlier quoted context omitted.
During my last flight out of JFK, I was told there is no TSA pre-check line, so I had to comply with the non pre-check rules. Global entry only covers the line for the passport check. You still need to due the next line for luggage (hello LAX) with everyone else.
If there's no Pre-Check line and you have Pre-check then they give you a big laminated card that says "Pre-Check" and you don't need to take shoes off / remove laptops belts etc. Yeah, with Global Entry it's worth paying for the priority baggage otherwise you'll just spend 45 minutes waiting by yourself in the baggage claim area as the bag belts get clogged up and stop with the bags of the passengers still stuck in t…
The TSA employees did not care about Pre-Check. They said that it was an international terminal (I was flying domestic) so there was no Pre-Check. The only perk I got was to be able to go through the old style detector. I still needed to remove electronics. They did not care.
Also, the line I am referring to is the baggage check for customs. First comes the passport check, then you retrieve your luggage, and then you go through customs again with your luggage (which is never checked). Global Entry does not help you with that last line, which can be brutal at some airports.
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#175Earlier quoted context omitted.
How hard is it to pour your possible explosive liquid into a bin with all the other possible explosives in the center of the largest, densest crowd in the airp... Oh wait I see your point.
Wow. Make sure you let us know how the FBI visit went.
Lots of us had the same thought with those famously huge crowds at airport security just post-9/11. Cabinet member on one channel (we had channels then) telling us how sophisticated, dedicated, well-funded, and capable our adversary is, and how they're basically everywhere. Change the channel, story about massive lines at airports. Put two and two together, quick mental math involving how long air travel might be crippled in the entire OECD by a single attack at a security line and the economic damage of that—not to mention the, you know, terror of such a follow up attack, I mean it's right there in what we call this whole thing—then the cost of such an attack versus the entire 9/11 project (a fraction), and as the weeks pass and the obvious doesn't happen you start to go "hey wait a minute, that may have been a crazy fluke by some not-well-coordinated group and the cabinet member's just bullshitting me about this Bond villain terrorist organization thing."
I suspect having had that thought was a common differentiator between the folks who were on board with the plan at least until Iraq, and those who were already going "hey can we wait a minute?" before the invasion of Afghanistan.
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#176Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, it's always up to the whims of the underpaid TSA agent who happens to be there that day. Back when iPads were new, I got scolded for taking it out of my bag, and scolded for leaving it in my bag, by agents at the same airport on two trips a few weeks apart.
In the last 8 days: CMH->MCO ‘remove your belts please’ MCO->SEA ‘keep your belts on’ SEA->CMH ‘i’d recommend you take your belt off’
SFO->PDX: "Remove all electronics and any metal from your person." "You can keep your watch on."
I'm wearing a smart watch, of course, with plenty of metal in its construction.
Nowadays, I just stash anything not made from cotton in the bag to go through the X-ray well before I get into range where TSA officers can given contradicting instructions and then berate me for not following their directives.
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#177Earlier quoted context omitted.
What exactly are they trying to prevent with the liquid prohibition, anyway?
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/liquids... A pretty good summary and a bonus foreshadowing of this article. I have had a pretty good experience with the new scanners. I have global entry/Precheck and one remaining headache with the old scanners was remembering to take my double walked flask out and show the TSA that it was empty by removing the cap. The new scanners can see that it’s empty from i…
I'm still fairly certain that the purpose of the liquid ban is purely to boost sales of toiletries, especially in small "travel size" containers.
An entire new line of single use toiletry products was invented to meet this regulation.
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#178But when are we going to have the real discussion about security theater?
Next, how about removing the ridiculous limitations on carrying a bottle of water with you?
Carrying a bottle of water that you got from inside the secured airport area, on a previous flight. That the TSA agent is going to confiscate, and promptly take the prohibited water inside the area it's prohibited from so that he can dump it down a drain.
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#179I remember when I was in Changi Terminal 4 airport in Singapore few months back I do not need to take out my laptop from the scanner.
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#180About a year ago I was at an airport (Boston? New Jersey?) outbound that had a sign or TV monitor saying "Great news, you no longer need to take your laptop out of your bag!" I read this sign as a TSA worker shouted every 30 seconds to the shuffling line about how everyone needed to take out all laptops, "ipads", cameras, etc. I wonder if it was a pilot program. Or more likely, just part of the constantly shifting fa…
Buy TSA friendly backpack. Problem solved. Bought mine at BestBuy. Samsonite 5580680. The zipper goes all the way down so the bag is split in 2, a pouch holding your laptop and the other half holds the rest of your stuff. This lets TSA X-Ray equipment inspect your laptop only without cables, cellphone, and gadgets on the way.
"Just buy this product."
TSA continues to fulfill its mission flawlessly.