Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas • Hacker News Board

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by frotak » Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 1:51 AM UTC

> a common global framework ....will ensure that the Internet does not get fractured, entrepreneurs can build products that serve everyone, and everyone gets the same protections.

Homogeneity favors business but does not foster independent or challenging thought.

Converging on a "baseline" common set of standards for "harmful" speech and what constitutes "privacy" is only going to reach the lowest common denominator.

Let people opt in to the level of control and sanitization that they want, but do not apply global restrictions without opt-out.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 1:54 AM UTC

raymondgh wrote: post #158

Zuck still wants platforms to control the judgement and censorship of content. I agree this content should be the responsibility and liability of every so-called “platform” that wants to profit off our communication as people — but an ideal platform should NOT be censored at the network level. I want to live in a world where Facebook the company can’t be blamed for people voting one way or another, and I think this i…

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by jayess » Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:21 AM UTC

Am I the only one that is just annoyed at the tone and language of everything he writes? The guy doesn't seem to have a soul.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by mirimir » Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:30 AM UTC

mannykannot wrote: post #122

aestetix wrote: post #40

"Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity." -- Mark Zuckerberg[1], defending Facebook's "Real" Name policy. Based on his total disregard for privacy and his clear thirst for power, I want nothing coming from him or his company to ever influence actual policies. [1] http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/01/30/quoted-mark-zuckerberg...

"Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity." -- Mark Zuckerberg "Having two identities is a reflection of how much trust I have in your integrity." -- me, to Mark Zuckerberg.

Two? He's making an issue about having two identities?

Over the past decade, I've probably had ~50 identities. Most have been minor, basically just an email address for some project or activity that I don't want linked to such persistent personas as Mirimir.

And it's also somewhat amusing, given how Facebook doesn't exactly advertize its origins as FaceMash. And this gem:

> I'm a little intoxicated, not gonna lie. So what if it's not even 10 pm and it's a Tuesday night? What? The Kirkland dormitory facebook is open on my desktop and some of these people have pretty horrendiedous facebook pics. I almost want to put some of these faces next to pictures of some farm animals and have people vote on which is more attractive.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by mirimir » Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:32 AM UTC

syshum wrote: post #155

aestetix wrote: post #40

"Having two identities for yourself is an example of a lack of integrity." -- Mark Zuckerberg[1], defending Facebook's "Real" Name policy. Based on his total disregard for privacy and his clear thirst for power, I want nothing coming from him or his company to ever influence actual policies. [1] http://www.siliconbeat.com/2014/01/30/quoted-mark-zuckerberg...

I agree, I question the people that have only 2 identities, people need 4 or 5 these days

More like one for each online account :)

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by rdxm » Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:44 AM UTC

this could be the last person on the planet I want to hear from on the topic of the "internet needs new rules" justsayin....

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by dang » Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:49 AM UTC

disposablename wrote: post #154

Go fuck a hat Zuck, you're the last person who should be in charge of the Internet.

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News? We've had to ask you this before, and eventually ban accounts that keep doing this.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by dang » Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:49 AM UTC

maxhedrome wrote: post #150

I can’t tell where the government puppet his ass begins, and where the robot ends.

We've banned this account for posting unsubstantive comments.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by WheelsAtLarge » Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:51 AM UTC

A classic big business strategy. If a company feels threaten with regulations then they work towards making the regulations benefitial to them. Also regulations make it harder for small comptitors to start so if you have favorable regulations then you forestall competition. Sounds to me that he'll be sounding like an advocate for the public from now on. We need to dought him more than ever.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg: The Internet needs new rules. Let’s start in these four areas

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Post by kerng » Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 2:58 AM UTC

Zuckerberg seems to like GDPR and wants more of it, but at the same time Facebook moved accounts (some 1.5 billion) out of their Ireland datacenter to ensure they aren't held to EU privacy standards.

I haven't seen a leader (of a company) or CEO being so obviously ingenuine, its worrisome. I am not sure if he really believes his own words at this point or if he realized the ship hit the iceberg and he is now frantically trying to safe it but the long, painful submersion is inevitable... and he knows it too.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/19/facebook-...