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Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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It's not unique to Spain though... And neither surprising, tbh. Who in their right mind would even want to live without stable electricity, good waste management and all the other things you take for granted in even small villages ( There is literally nothing there besides some houses. That's enough to take a break on some holiday... But very few people would be willing to suffer through that long term

No healthcare, no chemists, no good Internet access, have to literally travel to buy clothes or go to the supermarket, and especially no jobs. Even in big towns jobs are scarce. Hence the asphyxiating housing bubble in big cities. It just makes no sense to live in any of those ghost villages. Unless you're some wealthy screwhead who can't stand the smallest amount of street noise.

A mostly abandoned village in Croatia that I was in still had a food truck come by 3x/week in a Sprinter. A meat truck once a week and some other food truck.

Pricing was somewhere around what the city grocery stores charged.

You could phone in orders.

In business for decades. Meanwhile in the “modern” world, I have to go to the store for my food...

One local said he only went into town once a month.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Am I the only one who sees depopulation of rural areas as a good thing? It's an opportunity to rewild large parts of the continent. We don't need humans dominating every last square metre of the globe. That's part of what is causing most of our problems in the first place.

https://gizmodo.com/what-if-the-entire-worlds-population-liv...

That was quite interesting. I knew Tokyo was big but wow! I live in Singapore. I think it's a sweet spot for high density cities.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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It's not unique to Spain though... And neither surprising, tbh. Who in their right mind would even want to live without stable electricity, good waste management and all the other things you take for granted in even small villages ( There is literally nothing there besides some houses. That's enough to take a break on some holiday... But very few people would be willing to suffer through that long term

Yep. Most places with advanced economies went through this phase decades ago. It’s actually surprising that some of these settlements held on for so long, even in parts of interior France (though that was completed by the 70s-80s.) It’s kind of romantic and idyll a sort of throwback to what Van Gogh at al might have seen in Avignon or the Comargue way back when.

And if you’re driving through France, just turn on “no-tolls” and you can drive through them. And save a fortune in tolls and cheaper gas.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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I'm sure there are plenty of people who can work remotely who would love to live in a place like this, if it were either turnkey or at least if there were some collective action organization. Makes even more sense in Portugal, though -- you could live in a place for 182 days/yr, after putting 350k euros investment into it, with a grant of portugese citizenship. I'm sure there are similar villages/properties in rural…

It may be tricky to do remote work from one of these places. In Spain, rural areas may not have broadband at all. You may have phone line, but the quality is so bad that not even ASDL is usable.

you should wait for low latency, high speed satellite internet.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Yes, how dare somebody buy something expensive with their own money!

It's funny that the ones who complain about wealth distribution the most are the ones who have insanely more wealth that includes pretty much everyone on HN. It's a pool club where only rich come.

Time to bitch is a luxery good too by now.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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I'm sure there are plenty of people who can work remotely who would love to live in a place like this, if it were either turnkey or at least if there were some collective action organization. Makes even more sense in Portugal, though -- you could live in a place for 182 days/yr, after putting 350k euros investment into it, with a grant of portugese citizenship. I'm sure there are similar villages/properties in rural…

There may be tax breaks available as well. The Azores are awesome for remote work. Faial has fiber optic lines, friendly people, temperate climate, beautiful landscape, and hiking.

https://www.azoresproperties.com/urban-renovation-tax-breaks...

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Why do you say that? Remote is remote, is I'm hiring remote, why would I care if the person is in Spain, Portugal or anywhere else? I'm sure you have context behind your comment and it would be great if you shared it.

At least for US companies, I do see a lot of remote positions that specify that candidates must be US based. Not sure why...

Timezone alignment. General cultural missunderstandings. People got burned by outsourcing, the original remote work.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Am I the only one who sees depopulation of rural areas as a good thing? It's an opportunity to rewild large parts of the continent. We don't need humans dominating every last square metre of the globe. That's part of what is causing most of our problems in the first place.

Not everyone hates humans ;-)

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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Reading this just made me think, imagine someday, perhaps a few hundred years, if the world's population were to rise even higher briefly and then dramatically fall simply due to falling birthrates. The ruins of a worldwide infrastructure of abandoned towns and cities built for 10 or 20 times the current population would probably seem very eerie.

Re: Ghost Villages for Sale in Spain

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