After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legitimacy issues
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Re: After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legitimacy issues
#2For me this is not just the EU copyright bill that faces legitimacy issues but the whole European Parliament. The vote only served to highlight systemic issues regarding how votes are conducted.
Re: After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legitimacy issues
#3For me this is not just the EU copyright bill that faces legitimacy issues but the whole European Parliament. The vote only served to highlight systemic issues regarding how votes are conducted.
How so? Can you expand on that?
Re: After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legitimacy issues
#4Brexit vote expressed people disagreement with bureaucracy and corruption like this, not with being a part of Europe.
Re: After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legitimacy issues
#5Brexit vote expressed people disagreement with bureaucracy and corruption like this, not with being a part of Europe.
You may need some references for that idea. I'm not saying it's wrong, just that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Re: After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legitimacy issues
#6Brexit vote expressed people disagreement with bureaucracy and corruption like this, not with being a part of Europe.
To quote a comment on reddit:
“It is monumentally ironic that the Member State planning to leave the EU because they want to make their own decisions, can't take any decision on leaving the EU.”
Re: After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legitimacy issues
#7For me this is not just the EU copyright bill that faces legitimacy issues but the whole European Parliament. The vote only served to highlight systemic issues regarding how votes are conducted.
How so? Can you expand on that?
I think the words "accidental vote" in the title say enough.
Re: After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legitimacy issues
#8Brexit vote expressed people disagreement with bureaucracy and corruption like this, not with being a part of Europe.
You may need some references for that idea. I'm not saying it's wrong, just that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Listening to people that voted for Brexit has shown me that they voted for it for many reasons. This is one of the reasons that people have given me. Furthermore this is a reason that many remainers were not able to push the case for remain strongly enough.
Re: After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legitimacy issues
#9For me this is not just the EU copyright bill that faces legitimacy issues but the whole European Parliament. The vote only served to highlight systemic issues regarding how votes are conducted.
How so? Can you expand on that?
Here's MEP Dobromir Sośnierz showing how the two different kind of votes look like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLh9DMuetm4
It seemed incredible to me how one could "accidentally vote wrong", but seeing the process and speed at which it goes, I totally buy it now.
Re: After accidental vote, EU copyright bill faces three legitimacy issues
#10Brexit vote expressed people disagreement with bureaucracy and corruption like this, not with being a part of Europe.
You may need some references for that idea. I'm not saying it's wrong, just that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
Nonsense. This type of criticism is unwarranted and I suspect disingenuous.
There are lots of contexts in which we can say we would like to see more data. However, when someone is making a point which is a fairly standard one in the Brexit debates we don't need "references". Nor would referring to an article that said the same thing as OP somehow validate the point. There is a place for asking for references, but on a basic comment like this there is not.
Based on the other comments, it seems people are more upset about the perspective behind this idea rather than its truthfulness. I don't agree with the perspective that leaving the EU is a good thing but it is uncontrovertible that a significant portion of the population in the UK agrees with OP's statement.