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What Finally Killed AirPower

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Re: What Finally Killed AirPower

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Post by mcny »

bestnameever wrote: post #98
etatoby wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It should have a positive effect, because you're avoiding larger charges and keeping your battery at optimal levels.

i've found what I believe to be the heat generated by wireless chargers to have a negative effect on my battery longevity. Personally, I avoid them now after being a huge advocate from them. The reality is, Battery life on phones have improved to the point that I also rarely need to charge my phone anymore other than what I'm about to go to sleep anyway.

» The reality is, Battery life on phones have improved to the point that I also rarely need to charge my phone anymore other than what I'm about to go to sleep anyway.

On the Android side, batteries have gotten bigger with phones but more importantly the OS is getting better at battery management. With lineage 16 (Android pie), I can choose to enable battery saver at 75% battery.

I'm still on a Nexus 6. What has changed in battery technology recently?

Re: What Finally Killed AirPower

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Post by lugg »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #146
azinman2 wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many people are not like you. I personally don’t plug in at my desk even though a cable is there, as it’s one more thing to do. It’s also then tethered, meaning I have an extra step if I want to walk away and bring my phone with me. It’s also tethered meaning I have a loose cable now dangling in my way, which aside from functional issues is also ugly to look at. I know many who almost never charge their phones, essen…

All of which is covered by having a dock as the act of picking it up breaks connection. With the added advantage they were cheaper than wireless, and unlike AirPower actually available.

Your buying Apple. Price as an argument is long gone.

This whole thread is really asinine.

Wireless charging is a seamless, elegant solution to a problem.

It is not the only solution.

It is not a perfect solution.

It is not the cheapest solution.

It is not the most cost effective solution.

It is likely not the best solution for your battery life.

Docks and wires are not an elegant solution.

That's all the argument is.

One is old, painful and requires though, the other, does not.

It doesn't need to be a perfect argument, you don't have to buy into it. But unless you've tried it, please keep your opinions to yourself, because there is unlikely a chance you'll really "get it" and your single sided perspective is really not that useful.

Re: What Finally Killed AirPower

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Post by rexf »

azinman2 wrote: post #145
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what I never understood, even slightly. Why not just give an iPod / iPhone dock without all the wireless bullshit? I prefer a dock as it holds phone at a handy angle, syncs, and doesn't have the myriad of drawbacks of bluetooth. Smartphone battery life is so shit, on every model, that I always plug my phone in. Even if the cable / socket is only going to be around for minutes. So no saving here. In the days o…

Many people are not like you. I personally don’t plug in at my desk even though a cable is there, as it’s one more thing to do. It’s also then tethered, meaning I have an extra step if I want to walk away and bring my phone with me. It’s also tethered meaning I have a loose cable now dangling in my way, which aside from functional issues is also ugly to look at. I know many who almost never charge their phones, essen…

> I know many who almost never charge their phones, essentially always living at 5%.

That's amazing since I'm the opposite. I always try to be near or at 100% (both phone & laptop) while I'm at my desk.

Re: What Finally Killed AirPower

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Post by Razengan »

Ideal, possibly inevitable, future: Every device, including the cybernetic implants in our bodies, is constantly charged wirelessly at all times (over-the-air, with no contact required with any pads etc.)

Made possible by the etherspace we just discovered, with no harmful implications until it attracts eldritch entities from the far realms.

Re: What Finally Killed AirPower

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Post by tempodox »

jachee wrote: post #4
clay_the_ripper wrote: post #2

What a shame, this would be the actual experience of wireless charging that I had envisioned it was. The reality of wireless charging is quite different: fiddly and possible to have your phone be dead in the morning. I wish someone could figure out how to make a true wireless charging mat like this. As it stands, I wouldn’t buy a wireless charger for my wife for example. She’ll just plonk it on there and then ask me…

Both Qi chargers that I have make it very clear if charging is happening. The "just plonk it down" problem is human, not technical. I'm sure you're most likely underestimating your wife's ability to learn what is, in reality, a quite simple task.

“You're holding it wrong” is always the wrong answer.

Re: What Finally Killed AirPower

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Post by dingaling »

brian-armstrong wrote: post #11

So my phone is charged by a cable. It plugs into the wall on one side and then plugs into my phone on the other. This system works great - I plug my phone in when I go to bed and unplug it when I wake up. The cable is long enough to plug into my phone even if I want to use it in bed. It's easy, cheap and failproof. What is the draw of wireless charging? What is it that I'm missing? Did anyone ask for this?

Tangent, but the general advice in the past re: Lithium batteries was never to charge them without surveillance due to fire risk.

So for years I've been turning-off the chargers at bedtime.

Has this advice changed?

Re: What Finally Killed AirPower

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Post by bestnameever »

mcny wrote: post #151
bestnameever wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i've found what I believe to be the heat generated by wireless chargers to have a negative effect on my battery longevity. Personally, I avoid them now after being a huge advocate from them. The reality is, Battery life on phones have improved to the point that I also rarely need to charge my phone anymore other than what I'm about to go to sleep anyway.

» The reality is, Battery life on phones have improved to the point that I also rarely need to charge my phone anymore other than what I'm about to go to sleep anyway. On the Android side, batteries have gotten bigger with phones but more importantly the OS is getting better at battery management. With lineage 16 (Android pie), I can choose to enable battery saver at 75% battery. I'm still on a Nexus 6. What has chan…

>What has changed in battery technology recently?

I have no idea. I imagine most of the improvements in battery life stem from them being able to fit larger batteries in smaller packages along with hardware and software optimizations as well as improvements in cell reception. It could also be my usage. I listen to a lot of music during the day and perhaps the larger batteries are just able to accommodate me longer than the smaller ones.

I loved my Nexus 6 but I doubt I could still be using it still today so I am impressed. Can I ask what your reasons are for not having upgraded it? I generally upgrade my phones bc of the battery but this time I hope to just get it swapped out in a year or two.

Re: What Finally Killed AirPower

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Post by pjc50 »

NeedMoreTea wrote: post #139
_bxg1 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes something easy and makes it effortless . Like AirPods, this has a surprising number of implications that you really don't think about until you try it. If I'm just setting my phone down on my desk and it's at 50%, and my cable is right there, I may not bother to plug it in. Especially if I might get up again in 5 or 10 minutes. But if I can just set it down in a particular place and regain a couple percentag…

This is what I never understood, even slightly. Why not just give an iPod / iPhone dock without all the wireless bullshit? I prefer a dock as it holds phone at a handy angle, syncs, and doesn't have the myriad of drawbacks of bluetooth. Smartphone battery life is so shit, on every model, that I always plug my phone in. Even if the cable / socket is only going to be around for minutes. So no saving here. In the days o…

I'm still annoyed that Apple made an excellent dock connector, it became widespread especially in hotels, it was ideal for use with external speakers, and then killed it off.
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