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Re: V Playground

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Post by ModernMech »

fxfan wrote: post #54
ModernMech wrote: post #47

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Glad to hear you are growing, but just so you know you are getting a reputation for over-promising and under-delivering. In the last thread that was over 2 weeks ago, you promised the online playground in 2 days. It wasn't 2 days [1]. In this reddit thread you promised it in 3 hours [2]. It wasn't 3 hours. Look, you don't owe anybody anything, and that's fine. Just don't make promises you can't keep. If you're not go…

YOu know that website /r/choosingbeggars? That's where you belong. Author is giving stuff for free and humbly accepts that he has scheduling issues. You choose to lecture him like he owes you. How much money have you donated to him yet?

To be clear: 1) I literally said he doesn't owe anyone anything and 2) he hasn't exactly given anything for free to anyone yet as long as his compiler is closed source.

Re: V Playground

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Post by ModernMech »

amedvednikov wrote: post #55
ModernMech wrote: post #47

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Glad to hear you are growing, but just so you know you are getting a reputation for over-promising and under-delivering. In the last thread that was over 2 weeks ago, you promised the online playground in 2 days. It wasn't 2 days [1]. In this reddit thread you promised it in 3 hours [2]. It wasn't 3 hours. Look, you don't owe anybody anything, and that's fine. Just don't make promises you can't keep. If you're not go…

The first version of the playground was released 10 days ago. I no longer name dates.

Good to hear it. That's a smart move.

Re: V Playground

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Post by hu3 »

amedvednikov wrote: post #27

Hi, Developer here! Happy to answer all questions.

Just wanted to say that if you really made a new programming language, don't let perfectionism or other's requests get in the way of publishing it.

Even if it is half done and it doesn't fill many of the claims you might have made, push it online to github when the day comes. Inevitably some people will throw stones at you for not meeting their expectations and even you might be harsh on yourself but still push it online. There will be some of us who will be supportive and try to help the project according to your vision regardless if it is launched full of bugs, incomplete and with problematic or missing features.

Also, if the language never really existed and it was a fluke, I personally forgive you in advance, hope you find peace and wish you the best in life.

Re: V Playground

#64

Post by ilovecaching »

fxfan wrote: post #56
ilovecaching wrote: post #35

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We will see once you release the source code, but for now maybe tone down the language on your site and in your comments. Of course your code is going to compile faster if you don’t support any platforms or optimizations. If you’re really serious about building a programming language I suggest porting V to llvm IR so you can focus on the parts you’re obviously more interested in.

It's his website, he can do whatever he wants. You are not a paying customer. Stop being a choosing beggar.

Reading through your comments, I assume you are either a second account or an accomplice in the author's trolling. I don't care about his language. I care about spreading misinformation to people who don't know any better.

Re: V Playground

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Post by ModernMech »

fxfan wrote: post #52
rujuladanh wrote: post #33

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The last 10% is usually the actual 90%. Claims like C++ translation is definitely one of those 90% things that may look easy to some people until you actually try to do it.

Please don't lecture people unless you have something to show for it yourself, specially if it is unsolicited. The author is giving away his work for free, he owes nobody anything. He is amazingly humble too. You don't like his claims you are free to not use his product (for free!)

That's not a lecture, that's a bit of hard-earned advice right there. Anyone who has embarked on a language project for the first time (as the author is doing now) learns this one way or another. You get some toy programs compiling and you think "great! Almost done, now just to implement borrow checking" and 16 months later you have to squint to see the progress you've made. That's just the reality of it.

Re: V Playground

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Post by hu3 »

amedvednikov wrote: post #43
arthurcolle wrote: post #29

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Try the Fibonacci with memoization example, changing MAX to 55. Still work for you?

Yes, that breaks it. Integer overflows are not handled right now. This is an important bug and will be fixed asap.

Don't let this stop you from releasing. Others can help fix it.

Re: V Playground

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Post by ilovecaching »

amedvednikov wrote: post #58
ilovecaching wrote: post #50

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It’s intentionally misleading. He might not be outright lying, but he is either too ignorant or intentionally leaving out that his compiler is essentially just a front end with no back end.

The only one misleading here is you.

Then show us your source code. Explain how your compiler works. Your website has zero information outside of your front end targets.

Re: V Playground

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Post by rujuladanh »

fxfan wrote: post #52
rujuladanh wrote: post #33

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The last 10% is usually the actual 90%. Claims like C++ translation is definitely one of those 90% things that may look easy to some people until you actually try to do it.

Please don't lecture people unless you have something to show for it yourself, specially if it is unsolicited. The author is giving away his work for free, he owes nobody anything. He is amazingly humble too. You don't like his claims you are free to not use his product (for free!)

Excuse me? Who are you to tell others what to comment on? HN is a place to discuss projects and articles on good faith with comments as knowledgeable as possible. If you don't like constructive criticism, please leave and take your censoring somewhere else.

By the way, it is specially humorous that you ask me to "show something", when we are discussing a project that makes extraordinary claims without backing them at all.

Re: V Playground

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Post by ilovecaching »

amedvednikov wrote: post #57
ilovecaching wrote: post #49

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Where on your site? Where does it actually talk about how your compiler works in detail and the optimizations it’s running?

Ctrl + F "optimiz"

Which gives me zero information. It just says that you plan to add optimizations in the future and lists your compilation targets. I'm talking about an actual white paper or blog post that explains the inner workings of your compiler. Or just show us your source code. Something that proves you aren't just a troll taking people's money via Patreon over empty promises.

Re: V Playground

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Post by amedvednikov »

hu3 wrote: post #63
amedvednikov wrote: post #27

Hi, Developer here! Happy to answer all questions.

Just wanted to say that if you really made a new programming language, don't let perfectionism or other's requests get in the way of publishing it. Even if it is half done and it doesn't fill many of the claims you might have made, push it online to github when the day comes. Inevitably some people will throw stones at you for not meeting their expectations and even you might be harsh on yourself but still push it on…

How can it never exist if there's an online playground? :thinking:

I will release it in June without delays, that's the plan. Whatever state it is in.

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