I've tried one and the quality of the camera(s) is indeed excellent. The phone can do some neat tricks, like changing the focus of a photo after it has been taken. However, it feels kind of slow: RAW photos need to be post-processed before you can tinker with them and this can take a while, specially if you have taken several pics at the same time.
Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array
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Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array
#52This pureview-camera is designed by https://light.co who bagged $121m [0] in Series D funding lead by SoftBank a year back to develop what they call 'software-defined cameras' (SDN/IDN/NFV equivalent of the computer networking world, I guess). We might see more of these. Here's a talk from co-founder Rajiv Laroia on their first camera, L16: https://spot.light.co/the-l16-under-the-hood/ ( https://youtu.be/vKmC9xWHhM4…
While I fully agree that the sending of user information by Nokia (or HMD Global to be specific) to Chinese servers was inacceptable breach of trust, I do think it was blown out of proportion https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=&sl=fi&tl=en&u=htt...
That's a translated version of an article where HMD explains it was part of the software included for Chinese phones as required by the Chinese cyber laws. Which to me seems very plausible, but well it was a big screwup on HMD's part. I am not really comfortable with any Chinese made phones, like my own One Plus, but yet there isn't really better options out there. I'm not sure does One Plus still come with the backdoor capable software pre-installed https://www.reddit.com/r/oneplus/comments/7ugzgy/oneplus_con...
Shame really, that there hasn't been bigger blowback towards China for their security practises which seem to be a major cause of this.
Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array
#53This pureview-camera is designed by https://light.co who bagged $121m [0] in Series D funding lead by SoftBank a year back to develop what they call 'software-defined cameras' (SDN/IDN/NFV equivalent of the computer networking world, I guess). We might see more of these. Here's a talk from co-founder Rajiv Laroia on their first camera, L16: https://spot.light.co/the-l16-under-the-hood/ ( https://youtu.be/vKmC9xWHhM4…
I almost bought a Nokia phone, but after I found out their Android One phones have a bunch of Chinese made services running on them I figured I might as well buy a Chinese phone with better specs for the money and went with Xiaomi.
The phone which send data to Chinese servers, were using firmware/software version only used in Chinese market. There were some faulty phones in wrong market where the firmware was using the "chinese version."
Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array
#54Abysmal battery (in 2019) and chinese ad spyware in supposedly pure Android drop this phone to the bottom of competition. If it had rumored 4150mAh battery and clean system I would buy it immediately.
Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array
#55Is it sending data to Chinese servers?
No. That was one particular model (the 7) that accidentally got Chinese-market software loaded onto all the phones, not just the ones required by law to have it. A software update corrected the issue since.
Your caution is warranted and laudable. In terms of traffic, this is not a stop sign, but a proceed cautiously sign.
Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array
#56> No 3.5 mm jack Oh well
I use Arduino nano for that. I've programmed the port on Arduino to support any amount of new devices with any port.
Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array
#572 × 12 MP RGB, f/1.8, 1/2.9", 1.25µm 3 × 12 MP BW, f/1.8, 1/2.9", 1.25µm 1 × TOF depth sensor 1 × dual-LED/dual-tone flash Zeiss Optics Who is this phone even for? If you're that into cameras wouldn't you go buy... a camera?
The very best camera is the one you have on hand when opportunity for taking a shot arises. Good luck lugging a DSLR 24/7.
Cheap phone + Ricoh GR
Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
I almost bought a Nokia phone, but after I found out their Android One phones have a bunch of Chinese made services running on them I figured I might as well buy a Chinese phone with better specs for the money and went with Xiaomi.
The phone which send data to Chinese servers, were using firmware/software version only used in Chinese market. There were some faulty phones in wrong market where the firmware was using the "chinese version."
Yes, but as far as I know all Nokia phones have services from evenwell running.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Nokia/comments/actk7z/android_one_p...
Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you think that is crazy look back to the Nokia 1020 that had a 41 MP camera and PureView back when most phones had like 8 MP. It took some awesome photos and several of my friends were very satisfied with the phone.
I actually think 1 41MP is less crazy than 5 8MP cameras. 5 lenses, 5 chips and 5 angles, seems hard to use in unison, so you end up having 4 cameras you don't use.
seems hard to use in unison
Using the five lenses and five sensors in unison is kind of the whole point of this setup. The underlying technology is pretty clever and allows for some cool tricks not possible with a traditional camera. You can read more about the concept here https://light.co/technology
edit: that being said, I have no idea how well this turns out to work in practice
Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array
#60The UK site offers a free screen replacement... does that mean the screens need replacing straight out of factory?
https://www.nokia.com/phones/en_gb/nokia-9-pureview/#recomme...
"6) The offer will be open to any customers who has purchased Nokia 9 PureView from the Nokia mobile online shop between 24.02.2019 and 30.04.2019 and are residents of Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Italy, Ireland, Luxemburg, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Spain, Sweden or UK. The offer is valid until the stock lasts. Coverage period of the screen replacement is only valid for ninety (90) days after date of delivery of the phone. The customer must be aged 18+ and agree to the promotion rules to participate. Redeeming the Service may require a valid proof of purchase such as order confirmation from Nokia online store, or receipt or invoice from authorized Nokia reseller, showing the date of purchase of the eligible Nokia phone. Instructions on how to redeem your free screen replacement and full Terms & Conditions can be found here. Your personal data will be used according to HMD Global Privacy Policy."