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Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array

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Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array

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Post by morsch »

dagw wrote: post #33
krn wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally didn't find the lack of 3.5 mm jack to be as big of an issue as I thought it will be. I just attached the USB-C-to-3.5mm adapter that came in the box to the headphone cable and forgot about it.

Do you know if these converters are device specific or can I plug them into any USB-C port on any computer and have sound come out of my headphones.

Some phones support audio accessory mode, which is a way to reserve some pins for analog audio signals. In this case, you only need a passive adapter. There's no reason why desktop or laptops computers couldn't support it, too, but if they do, it's rare. So such an adapter is unlikely to work with a computer, and may not work with all phones.

The alternative is an active device, with its own DAC and amplifier. This is more likely to work with all your devices; I'm pretty sure I could connect my desktop computer's external USB headphone amp to my android phone and it'd just work.

Details: https://www.soundguys.com/usb-audio-explained-18563/ https://www.androidcentral.com/usb-c-audio

Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array

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Post by andai »

citeguised wrote: post #26
hokobomo wrote: post #3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia

Very fascinating. Now I know why the Light-Camera [1] looks just plain ugly to me. The Nokia-Phone is a little better, but also non-pleasant at least. [1] https://light.co/camera

Oh man, that is not OK.

Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array

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Post by rando444 »

4thaccount wrote: post #28
kmlx wrote: post #25

am i the only one that is reminded by the "multi-blade razor wars", when gillette and wilkinson got into a "mine has more blades" competition? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/the-knive... >> Gillette has historically called the shots in this razor war. It enjoys a huge worldwide sales advantage over Schick/Wilkinson Sword, which is now based in St Louis. With several lawsuits and countersuits const…

If you think that is crazy look back to the Nokia 1020 that had a 41 MP camera and PureView back when most phones had like 8 MP. It took some awesome photos and several of my friends were very satisfied with the phone.

I had a Nokia 3650 for 4 years that had a 640x480 resolution, and it took amazing photos.

I also recently had a Nokia with a 12MP camera that was essentially garbage.

You can't really compare megapixels to megapixels, as the lens is more important.

You could have a 200MP camera, but if you're using a pinhole lens, you're just going to have 200 megapixels of crap.

Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array

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Post by baybal2 »

ignoramous wrote: post #36

This pureview-camera is designed by https://light.co who bagged $121m [0] in Series D funding lead by SoftBank a year back to develop what they call 'software-defined cameras' (SDN/IDN/NFV equivalent of the computer networking world, I guess). We might see more of these. Here's a talk from co-founder Rajiv Laroia on their first camera, L16: https://spot.light.co/the-l16-under-the-hood/ ( https://youtu.be/vKmC9xWHhM4…

Nokia is not a stranger to multi-aperture cameras. Their first acquisition in this space was from more than 10 years ago.

Logic is following - it is physically impossible to stuff decent optics inside the phone, and extensive software processing is unavoidable. Thus, if you have to drink the software processing koolaid, drink as much as you can.

Another notable player in the are is https://www.facetvision.de/ - Fraunhofer's third or fourth respin of their camera module business. They had silicon to show, but I believe nobody took the bait yet.

Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array

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Post by winter_blue »

citeguised wrote: post #26
hokobomo wrote: post #3

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trypophobia

Very fascinating. Now I know why the Light-Camera [1] looks just plain ugly to me. The Nokia-Phone is a little better, but also non-pleasant at least. [1] https://light.co/camera

That camera does look really ugly. Like it's got chicken pox. I wonder how they expect to sell well, with it looking like that.

Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array

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Post by giancarlostoro »

nabla9 wrote: post #31
jj2ay0 wrote: post #9

https://www.zdnet.com/article/nokia-firmware-blunder-sent-so...

It was bad screw up and PR hit, but it was not intentional.

I just hope it doesn't continue to happen, I would love to see Nokia not fail. Unfortunately bad PR like this will be uttered for years to come, some geeks are not very forgiving. We see it with Microsoft still, despite their many contributions to open source, and their openness compared to Oracle.

Otherwise I will have to stick to Motorola for my next phone, I love that Nokia and Motorola make more minimal phones. If Google would bring back Nexus as a way for manufacturers to release phones that are fully stock android, that would be great, or some sort of similar line of phones. Otherwise I'm leaning towards iPhone with all the stupid Android scandals, especially if one of the Moto phones is found to have a similar problem, enough is enough.

Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array

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Post by mikkom »

4thaccount wrote: post #28
kmlx wrote: post #25

am i the only one that is reminded by the "multi-blade razor wars", when gillette and wilkinson got into a "mine has more blades" competition? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/the-knive... >> Gillette has historically called the shots in this razor war. It enjoys a huge worldwide sales advantage over Schick/Wilkinson Sword, which is now based in St Louis. With several lawsuits and countersuits const…

If you think that is crazy look back to the Nokia 1020 that had a 41 MP camera and PureView back when most phones had like 8 MP. It took some awesome photos and several of my friends were very satisfied with the phone.

Or nokia camera designer light's own camera.

https://light.co/camera

Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array

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Post by sorenjan »

ignoramous wrote: post #36

This pureview-camera is designed by https://light.co who bagged $121m [0] in Series D funding lead by SoftBank a year back to develop what they call 'software-defined cameras' (SDN/IDN/NFV equivalent of the computer networking world, I guess). We might see more of these. Here's a talk from co-founder Rajiv Laroia on their first camera, L16: https://spot.light.co/the-l16-under-the-hood/ ( https://youtu.be/vKmC9xWHhM4…

I almost bought a Nokia phone, but after I found out their Android One phones have a bunch of Chinese made services running on them I figured I might as well buy a Chinese phone with better specs for the money and went with Xiaomi.

Re: Nokia 9 PureView Now Available: A Flagship with a 5+1-Camera Array

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Post by 4thaccount »

rando444 wrote: post #43
4thaccount wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think that is crazy look back to the Nokia 1020 that had a 41 MP camera and PureView back when most phones had like 8 MP. It took some awesome photos and several of my friends were very satisfied with the phone.

I had a Nokia 3650 for 4 years that had a 640x480 resolution, and it took amazing photos. I also recently had a Nokia with a 12MP camera that was essentially garbage. You can't really compare megapixels to megapixels, as the lens is more important. You could have a 200MP camera, but if you're using a pinhole lens, you're just going to have 200 megapixels of crap.

Agreed, but the 41 MP had Carl Zeiss lens (I hear that is good) and the PureView tech. Please correct me if that is just a good name on slapped on a crap lens (I'm not a photography enthusiast )
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