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Re: GitHub may have been blocked in parts of China

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Post by jjjjjjjjjjjjjjj »

aaomidi wrote: post #38
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjj wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds strange. Programming resources usually aren't blocked here - even when they're on Wikipedia. StackOverflow isn't blocked, and GitHub hasn't been blocked either. E: Excluding Google search I've only encountered one blocked programming resource when sporadically programming on my spare time here: golang.org - which I'm guessing is because it's on hosted on Google's servers.

Does China block specific parts of wikipedia then? How do they know what part of wikipedia you're visiting?

Chinese Wikipedia is blocked. I thought parts of English Wikipedia was blocked somehow as well, but seems like that's outdated information (after they started enforcing https in June 2015[0]). You'll find a list of the blocking methods on the Great Firewall wiki article[1].

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Wikipedia#China [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Firewall#Blocking_method...

Re: GitHub may have been blocked in parts of China

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Post by silasdavis »

yg6ht5 wrote: post #40
aaomidi wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> showing no regard and respect to the rest of the world. What the fuck? They're not showing "respect" because they don't speak English?

Yes, English is the "universal" language, whether we like it or not, and speaking in another language in a public place (such as a github issue tracker) is disrespectful, because it's like gatekeeping information and knowledge.

Hmm. No.

Re: GitHub may have been blocked in parts of China

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Post by rqs »

barry-cotter wrote: post #17
shanghaiclique wrote: post #5

Hi, I'm in Shanghai and can reach Github fine, and there are no engineers speaking about github being blocked within China.

Also, in Shanghai, also works fine without VPN. The GFW can vary by province. I remember HN being blocked in Shenzhen but not Shanghai six years ago.

There are a website called https://www.17ce.com/, it's a speed test service, but their server mainly located in China (Of course, it's a Chinese website), so it can be used to test status of some GFW blocks.

That website tells me GitHub is fine, and that's all, I guess.

This is the speed test result for Google.com https://imgur.com/eOoxthu

This is the result for GitHub.com https://imgur.com/T9o0U79 (Red == Delay was very bad)

Re: GitHub may have been blocked in parts of China

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Post by etaerc »

jjjjjjjjjjjjjjj wrote: post #36
etaerc wrote: post #21

I have a friend in China who's trying to learn software development by himself. It's ridiculously hard compared to the west. It shouldn't be underestimated how Wikipedia, Stackoverflow and Github can increase your learning speed.

Sounds strange. Programming resources usually aren't blocked here - even when they're on Wikipedia. StackOverflow isn't blocked, and GitHub hasn't been blocked either. E: Excluding Google search I've only encountered one blocked programming resource when sporadically programming on my spare time here: golang.org - which I'm guessing is because it's on hosted on Google's servers.

Yeah but how do you search for stuff there if google doesn't work? I.e. you try to learn "udp hole punching" how do you get the relevant wikipedia, stackoverflow etc pages?

Re: GitHub may have been blocked in parts of China

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Post by aaomidi »

yg6ht5 wrote: post #40
aaomidi wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> showing no regard and respect to the rest of the world. What the fuck? They're not showing "respect" because they don't speak English?

Yes, English is the "universal" language, whether we like it or not, and speaking in another language in a public place (such as a github issue tracker) is disrespectful, because it's like gatekeeping information and knowledge.

No it's not. This is imperialist thinking. There is no universal language.

If you want to understand what they're saying hire a translator or use an online service. They're not using some obscure language only a few people understand.

Get out with your western centric thinking.

Re: GitHub may have been blocked in parts of China

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Post by yorwba »

etaerc wrote: post #44
jjjjjjjjjjjjjjj wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sounds strange. Programming resources usually aren't blocked here - even when they're on Wikipedia. StackOverflow isn't blocked, and GitHub hasn't been blocked either. E: Excluding Google search I've only encountered one blocked programming resource when sporadically programming on my spare time here: golang.org - which I'm guessing is because it's on hosted on Google's servers.

Yeah but how do you search for stuff there if google doesn't work? I.e. you try to learn "udp hole punching" how do you get the relevant wikipedia, stackoverflow etc pages?

https://cn.bing.com or https://baidu.com

Chinese Bing has an interesting feature where it pop ups a dictionary definition when you hover over any English word in the search results. Even with that, not everyone's English is good enough to understand Wikipedia/StackOverflow/... so they use Baidu Baike/Zhihu/... as alternatives.

Re: GitHub may have been blocked in parts of China

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Post by yorwba »

aaomidi wrote: post #45
yg6ht5 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, English is the "universal" language, whether we like it or not, and speaking in another language in a public place (such as a github issue tracker) is disrespectful, because it's like gatekeeping information and knowledge.

No it's not. This is imperialist thinking. There is no universal language. If you want to understand what they're saying hire a translator or use an online service. They're not using some obscure language only a few people understand. Get out with your western centric thinking.

I think you could have made your point without resorting to personal attacks.
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