No call for simulators in new Boeing 737 Max training proposals
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Re: No call for simulators in new Boeing 737 Max training proposals
#2you won't be seeing me on one of them until it gets a new type rating
Re: No call for simulators in new Boeing 737 Max training proposals
#3“It was the safest way to get around the regulations.”
Manifestly not.
(And why are you trying to "get around the regulations" anyway? Shouldn't you be complying with the regulations, not getting around them?)
Re: No call for simulators in new Boeing 737 Max training proposals
#4They really should limit the amount of special circumstances a pilot needs to train for. Each new one adds to a risk esp one like this
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#5Boeing's actions are absolutely mind boggling. All consumers want is _some_, _any_ evidence that they take passenger safety seriously.
Pilots have to take less training to operate a proven deadly aircraft, with software patch on top, than I have to take to work in an office job... that's fucking insane.
How can we make Boeing feel some pain for this? You know, actually enough for them to start taking this seriously.
Re: No call for simulators in new Boeing 737 Max training proposals
#6“It was the safest way to get around the regulations.” Manifestly not. (And why are you trying to "get around the regulations" anyway? Shouldn't you be complying with the regulations, not getting around them?)
Considering Boeing already participates or works in tandem with the FAA to write the rules, it is pretty sick they are trying to work around the rules. This is all about profit and they are doubling down, likely due to contract obligations with Southwest and others that this plane will not require a new type rating or any sim. time. Lets hope EASA actually reviews this rather than the FAA letting boeing self audit ...
Re: No call for simulators in new Boeing 737 Max training proposals
#7you won't be seeing me on one of them until it gets a new type rating
I fly at least once a month. I'll be avoiding MAX until agencies other than the FAA recertify the plane. FAA cannot be trusted because of regulatory capture so I won't take their word over this anytime soon.
Re: No call for simulators in new Boeing 737 Max training proposals
#8I'd highly recommend anyone who wants to see what an MCAS runaway looks like and the steps needed to correct it watch the following video by Mentour Pilot.[1] He's a 737 pilot for a European budget carrier, and I believe he is qualified to certify other pilots.
In the video he goes over what an MCAS failure/runaway stabilizer would feel like to the pilots, the troubleshooting steps, and at the end of the video he shows a simulated runaway MCAS failure in a sim.
He also has a few other videos on the MCAS accidents. I'd highly recommend watching all of them; he does a very good job at putting everything into perspective in a way that the news does not.
Re: No call for simulators in new Boeing 737 Max training proposals
#9What they should do, is give some pilots their training course they propose, then simulate the issue on a simulator. Prove they response appropriately with the training proposed.
Re: No call for simulators in new Boeing 737 Max training proposals
#10Even if this is right from technical point of view (which I am not qualified to comment on), Boeing being perceived as dragging their feet on safety and training is very bad for the image of the airplane.
I think that they are still trying to save the type rating, but I feel this ship has sailed.