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I Miss Rails

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Re: I Miss Rails

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Post by loganfrederick »

jonahx wrote: post #16
digb wrote: post #8

I’ll say this: I came to Rails from Node (and before that .NET but with a way smaller scope of responsibility), and I am thoroughly convinced the author is correct. I couldn’t estimate for shit in my first few months at this job (once I had ramped) because Rails makes things that would’ve taken at least twice as long easy to do, even without gems. Plus, I have seen not even a third of the compatibility issues between…

Here are two of the most popular books on Rails on Amazon, along with their page counts: "The Rails 5 Way" (1088 pages) "Ruby on Rails Tutorial: Learn Web Development with Rail" (816 pages) Rails is enterprise.

Confirmed, Chicago has multiple billion and hundred-million-dollar businesses built on Ruby on Rails. A lot of it stems from Basecamp being based here, so Chicago had a lot of early adopters. But those early adopters have spawned new companies using the latest versions of Rails decades later.

Re: I Miss Rails

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Post by 0xADEADBEE »

jph wrote: post #14

Elixir and Phoenix are excellent, and you'll recognize many of the same concepts in these. The communities are excellent as well, and welcoming to newcomers.

They're fantastic and I hope the future is bright for them but I've had to pick Rails for a few projects over the last few months because the library support is so much more established. The more I get to use Phoenix, the more I am convinced it is the most well designed web framework there is, so I hope to use it a lot going forward.

Re: I Miss Rails

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Post by jacobsenscott »

chanind wrote: post #11
ericb wrote: post #4

Why miss it, come on back, the water's still warm and the dev is still as fast as ever in Rails. Honestly, the JS stacks all seem vastly more annoying on so many levels. It seems like the JS ecosystem changes so fast because it knows better is possible, so it just tries to reinvent itself over and over. The JavaScript world starts with this weird prototype based language with a syntax that looks like it might be some…

Oddly I never considered starting a new project with it, but now I'm questioning why that is. I guess I just don't see many new projects started in Rails, and nowhere I've worked the past few years uses it. I stopped using it after Rails 3, but I'll give it a try again in the next side-project I work on and see how it goes.

Server side rendered is still fantastic for the vast bulk of web apps. Turbolinks and a bit of care around performance and all you users know is you have a fast site. Not many apps really need the super rich SPA type experience.

Re: I Miss Rails

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Post by andrenth »

president wrote: post #9

There is a universe where there exists only 1 programming language and only a single web framework. That would be cool to experience.

In that universe, developers think the universe with multiple languages and frameworks is the cool one.

Re: I Miss Rails

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Post by splap »

inapis wrote: post #7

What’s the harm in using rails purely as an API? You’ll still get a lot of functionality out of the box and maybe have to write just a little bit more glue code for the JS-backed front end than what rails provides out of the box.

That's what we do. Rails mostly just a json api, with a React front end. Devise handles auth. Useful gems in models and services, sidekiq doing its thing... Happy with the setup.

Re: I Miss Rails

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Post by 0xADEADBEE »

BillFranklin wrote: post #6

> if the modern equivalent of Rails already exists, please let me know! You're in luck. Rails 5.2.3 was released 20 hours ago. More seriously, I feel rails is still excellent and I'm happy to work with it every day. I'd be interested to hear more about what makes rails not modern? I find it a very productive framework. EDIT: If you're talking about missing a JS equivalent of rails, do you know about Loopback? https:/…

I know this is the opposite of what you asked but I find Rails to be keeping pace with modernity much better than its conemporaries! Django seem to have given up on integrating websockets (ActionCable has been in Rails for literally years now), nor is there trivial integration for JS assets/asset pipeline functionality. I don't write much of either anymore, but I'd still reach for Rails the instant I need to get something done quickly.

Re: I Miss Rails

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Post by ericb »

ajsharp wrote: post #25

Yep, 100%. In the process of converting a node/typescript API to rails. I'll never make this mistake again.

I'm de-Embering here and going to pure Rails. I'm gonna party like it's 2009!

Re: I Miss Rails

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Post by hw »

digb wrote: post #8

I’ll say this: I came to Rails from Node (and before that .NET but with a way smaller scope of responsibility), and I am thoroughly convinced the author is correct. I couldn’t estimate for shit in my first few months at this job (once I had ramped) because Rails makes things that would’ve taken at least twice as long easy to do, even without gems. Plus, I have seen not even a third of the compatibility issues between…

I believe Shopify is built on Rails and is (or was) a Rails monolith. It's worked well for them.
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