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Yeah but it was half a centimeter thicker, and therefore useless to today's Apple.
half a centimeter thicker? .04 pounds heavier? how did people even use machines that heavy and thick? did they come with medical insurance to help with the back strain?! /s from an annoyed-with-the-touchbar-mbp-users
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As self-serving as it is, iFixit is doing a social good IMO. If it weren't for them, I would have spent more money replacing or having someone else repair my iPhone. So I don't care if they make money off of it, they save me more money in the long-run, and they prevent a larger number of phones and other devices being cycled through the economy before necessary. If that means punching up at Apple, so be it. Apple can…
> iFixit is doing a social good IMO Agree. > anyone fighting against it is on the right side Don't. For example, Louis Rossmann recently kicked up a storm when he claimed that Apple used the customs to seize his "genuine" battery shipments (which was widely reported in the media and gave him significant publicity), except it turned out that he left out the fact that the parts were unauthorized: https://old.reddit.com…
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That all got wiped when you swapped parts. How does it leak now?
Because you set it up again?
If you have a bypass to that security, the anti-replacement measures won't work on you.
If you don't have a bypass, then the replacement parts won't leak any more than the old parts.
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Won't somebody please think of the shareholders? How will they be able to make insane profits if people aren't replacing ??
We must prevent repairs in order to maximize shareholder profit in order for the wealth to trickle down in order to allow consumers to replace their nonserviceable goods.
First, the shareholders get all the profits.
Then what?
...that's it.
I guess I believe in this "right to repair" movement, but only so far as to ensure that if you're capable of taking your device apart and putting it back together without breaking anything that you don't automatically void some warranty. I don't believe manufacturers should have to build things to be easy to take apart, to be replaceable or upgradeable, or anything else along those lines. I'd rather see legislation t…
I think you are misconstruing the aims of the right to repair movement. Its nothing to do with forcing companies to make it "easy" to repair, but rather about preventing companies from including "features" which serve no purpose besides preventing third party repair. An example would be a tractor that is designed to be cheaply serviceable, but has a feature which disables any replaced parts until a message signed by…
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Yeah but it was half a centimeter thicker, and therefore useless to today's Apple.
half a centimeter thicker? .04 pounds heavier? how did people even use machines that heavy and thick? did they come with medical insurance to help with the back strain?! /s from an annoyed-with-the-touchbar-mbp-users
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As self-serving as it is, iFixit is doing a social good IMO. If it weren't for them, I would have spent more money replacing or having someone else repair my iPhone. So I don't care if they make money off of it, they save me more money in the long-run, and they prevent a larger number of phones and other devices being cycled through the economy before necessary. If that means punching up at Apple, so be it. Apple can…
> iFixit is doing a social good IMO Agree. > anyone fighting against it is on the right side Don't. For example, Louis Rossmann recently kicked up a storm when he claimed that Apple used the customs to seize his "genuine" battery shipments (which was widely reported in the media and gave him significant publicity), except it turned out that he left out the fact that the parts were unauthorized: https://old.reddit.com…
I really dislike the "Right to Repair" movement because I see it as a lobbyist (iFixit pushes it heavily for example since they make money off it) & niche driven push that is both wasting a real chance to get at some actual critical problems and generating new ones of its own. The two big issues are reasonable life span as part of the purchase price, and questions about ownership vs security. 1. For the first, most p…
You seem to be ignoring that some manufacturers, like Apple, will straight up refuse to do repairs or sell replacement parts in some cases. One such iconic example was Linus Tech Tip's Mac Pro. They know they broke it and tried to pay for repairs , but Apple straight up refused to repair it, saying instead they needed to buy a new one. Similarly Apple refuses to do repairs or charge extreme amounts once a Macbook is…
Seriously, can you please explain how on Earth you got "me ignoring that" when I directly stated I thought it should be legally required for all manufacturers, specifically including Apple, to do repairs for a long period of time. I used 4-5 years as an example period that might be reasonable for a $500-1k phone.
>Similarly Apple refuses to do repairs or charge extreme amounts once a Macbook is "too old"
Which is why I'm saying that shouldn't be allowed. Holy crap is this place frustrating sometimes.
>And they are increasingly engineering it in such a way as to specifically prevent other companies from doing the repairs that they won't.
I don't see that. I see an inevitable result of engineering things to be as compact and efficient as possible. The higher the active to dead matter ratio, the less leeway there is for simple repair and swapping too. The problem isn't making that tradeoff, the problem is not pricing it in.
>The point of right to repair is that it acknowledges that the economic interests of a manufacturer are to sell you a replacement, not to repair/service a machine.
Lots of things in a free market are not in a manufacturers interests, like dumping toxins. If there was no such thing we'd never have to worry about externalities and such in the first place. That's why a free market is created by regulation and requires regulation for running, it's just a tool. It makes the most sense to regulate the desired result. Just pass a law saying manufacturers must offer 1 year of warranty on every $125 value of electronic goods up to a maximum of 6 years. Or make it a formula that scales down. Or a host of other ways. But match people's expectations that "this device I bought should work for a reasonable lifespan" and require them to meet that the exact same way we require them to meet standards for safety and labor and environment and on and on and on.
This is one of the issues that really blows my mind on HN. The disdain technical people here often display towards people in other fields even now is really sad.
That is why I'm holding to my 2011 ThinkPad T420 for dear life. I replaced keyboard 3 times ($30-$40 off ebay), changed HDD to SSD, and replaced CD-ROM with another SATA drive bay. Not having USB3 is annoying, the CPU is a little slow and the batteries aren't what they used to be, but the things still works and gives me no problems. I would like to get something smaller and lighter but all the affordable light laptop…
I'm speaking based on experience with the X230 though.
I really dislike the "Right to Repair" movement because I see it as a lobbyist (iFixit pushes it heavily for example since they make money off it) & niche driven push that is both wasting a real chance to get at some actual critical problems and generating new ones of its own. The two big issues are reasonable life span as part of the purchase price, and questions about ownership vs security. 1. For the first, most p…
How would you legislate the desired result?
For the "owners can choose what level of control they" I think it's more straight forward, and involves a small group of players too. Manufacturers of devices that have hardware and/or software crypto stacks should simply be required to offer a model that will let the owner load their own root keys as well and have those be equally valid for authorizing either hardware, software, or both.