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Re: Ask YC: Office space - cheap or creative?

#21
post #9

"cheap or creative?" Both. Take the cheaper space and make it creative cheaply. There's lots of ways to do this (beyond my expertise). Home Depot and Ikea are your friends.

Reminds me of the authentic loft space I visited once - it was really really cold (Winter). Not like the faux lofts that have central heating+air

Re: Ask YC: Office space - cheap or creative?

#23
post #17

Is it in the realm of possibilities that you can buy a bigger house with more bedrooms and then convert them into office space? That's what lots of folks do... There are many, many advantages of doing so. You mentioned you needed to bring clients and investors to the office. As someone said, investors often like to see the bootstrapper be creative so you'll get bonus points. Some clients will be put off; others will…

Be careful about zoning laws, though. Many houses are zoned solely for residential use and cannot be used for commercial offices. I am not a fan of zoning laws, but as a company executive you should be aware that converting spaces is full of legal pitfalls.

Re: Ask YC: Office space - cheap or creative?

#24
If you are still doing consulting, do you need your clients to come to your office? If so, will a 'cooler' office space impress them more, get you more business? If the answer is no, then save your money and go for a different space.

Do you even need a space at all? Do you need employees in the same office or could you all work from home (we ditched out office and work in this way and meet up once a week).

The final suggestion is to look for an apartment or house that you can rent or purchase and use that.

Re: Ask YC: Office space - cheap or creative?

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http://www.amanet.org/performance-profits/editorial.cfm?Ed=3... "90 percent of workers believe that better office design leads to better overall performance and gives the company a competitive advantage, and 90 percent of senior executives believed that a better physical working environment would have a positive impact on the bottom line"

http://www.management-issues.com/2006/8/24/research/poor-wor... "even simple things such as good lighting and having adequate daylight can reduce absenteeism by 15 per cent and increase productivity by between 2.8 per cent and 20 per cent."

http://www.cabe.org.uk/default.aspx?contentitemid=659&fi... "In a 2003 survey by Management Today magazine, virtually all (94 per cent) of those responding said that they regarded their place of work as a symbol of whether or not they were valued by their employer. Yet only 39 per cent thought that their offices had been designed ‘with people in mind’; and in another study no less than a third said that they were too ashamed of their offices to bring back colleagues or clients."

Re: Ask YC: Office space - cheap or creative?

#26
Creativity cannot exist in a vaccuum, without some contraints put on it, it explodes in a million directions like so much debris.

So I second those who say you should take the opportunity to be creative with the dull space and make it your own :-)

Re: Ask YC: Office space - cheap or creative?

#27
Are you crazy. Save your money to make sure the company succeeds!

I heard this quote somewhere: Run your startup like a one story whorehouse.

It was mentioned by a VC who has seen many startups come and go. Not to say they are the final word, but I think its very true.

Re: Ask YC: Office space - cheap or creative?

#28

There are no "creative spaces" only creative people. Reminds me of the Mac vs. PC creative work argument. Find good people and they won't care if they work in a cool trendy "loft" in San Fran or a boring grey cubicle in a converted strip mall in Idaho. My workspace is exactly the size of two 19" LCD monitors.

There is statistical evidence that suggests ceiling height influences thinking patterns. Higher ceilings encourage creative thinking and lower ceilings encourage detail-oriented thinking. [1] Obviously both patterns are critically important to hackers and businessmen.

Likely there are a whole suite of variables associated with a physical space that have an effect on thinking.

Yay for good architecture and design!

[1] http://www.csom.umn.edu/assets/71190.pdf

Re: Ask YC: Office space - cheap or creative?

#29
post #9

"cheap or creative?" Both. Take the cheaper space and make it creative cheaply. There's lots of ways to do this (beyond my expertise). Home Depot and Ikea are your friends.

A friend rented the office of a furniture warehouse. It was cheap, creative and he was never short of chairs.

Re: Ask YC: Office space - cheap or creative?

#30
post #17

Is it in the realm of possibilities that you can buy a bigger house with more bedrooms and then convert them into office space? That's what lots of folks do... There are many, many advantages of doing so. You mentioned you needed to bring clients and investors to the office. As someone said, investors often like to see the bootstrapper be creative so you'll get bonus points. Some clients will be put off; others will…

Be careful about zoning laws, though. Many houses are zoned solely for residential use and cannot be used for commercial offices. I am not a fan of zoning laws, but as a company executive you should be aware that converting spaces is full of legal pitfalls.

As I understand it, UK law is quite good in this regard. Any number of residents can work from home but no-one is supposed to commute to a residential property. This means that a reasonable number of founders can live and work in the same building.
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