Internal Documents Show Apple Is Capable of Implementing Right to Repair
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Internal Documents Show Apple Is Capable of Implementing Right to Repair
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#2So I admit being pessimistic about actually getting Right to Repair laws passed. Lawmakers keep being told that 'it stifles innovation' and since they often have as limited understanding of technology as I do as to the innards of political wheel-greasing they often fall for that tripe.
Are there any known Right to Repair statutes (US or Int'l) or bills that show signs of life?
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#3With over 200 billion in savings the only thing they can’t do is be honest about what you are repairing for the third time!
Re: Internal Documents Show Apple Is Capable of Implementing Right to Repair
#4So I admit being pessimistic about actually getting Right to Repair laws passed. Lawmakers keep being told that 'it stifles innovation' and since they often have as limited understanding of technology as I do as to the innards of political wheel-greasing they often fall for that tripe. Are there any known Right to Repair statutes (US or Int'l) or bills that show signs of life?
Massachusetts passed Right to Repair as a ballot measure (which Tesla basically flaunts by making manuals extremely expensive to rent). But note that right to repair does not automatically equate with "easy to repair without special tools and knowledge."
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#5I guess I believe in this "right to repair" movement, but only so far as to ensure that if you're capable of taking your device apart and putting it back together without breaking anything that you don't automatically void some warranty.
I don't believe manufacturers should have to build things to be easy to take apart, to be replaceable or upgradeable, or anything else along those lines.
I'd rather see legislation that ensures when a piece of tech reaches the end of its useful lifetime it can be submitted back to the manufacturer and properly recycled at no cost to the user.
Re: Internal Documents Show Apple Is Capable of Implementing Right to Repair
#6So I admit being pessimistic about actually getting Right to Repair laws passed. Lawmakers keep being told that 'it stifles innovation' and since they often have as limited understanding of technology as I do as to the innards of political wheel-greasing they often fall for that tripe. Are there any known Right to Repair statutes (US or Int'l) or bills that show signs of life?
Massachusetts passed Right to Repair as a ballot measure (which Tesla basically flaunts by making manuals extremely expensive to rent). But note that right to repair does not automatically equate with "easy to repair without special tools and knowledge."
> But note that right to repair does not automatically equate with "easy to repair without special tools and knowledge."
I'm okay with that. I just don't want businesses to be able to deny access to their manuals, threaten to void warranties for 'abuse' for performing an action that their authorized techs do all the time without any adverse effect on the hardware, or remotely kill software used in the hardware because someone replaced some atoms arranged in a less than ideal manner with some other atoms arranged in a more ideal manner without paying the business themselves to do it.
Re: Internal Documents Show Apple Is Capable of Implementing Right to Repair
#7I guess I believe in this "right to repair" movement, but only so far as to ensure that if you're capable of taking your device apart and putting it back together without breaking anything that you don't automatically void some warranty. I don't believe manufacturers should have to build things to be easy to take apart, to be replaceable or upgradeable, or anything else along those lines. I'd rather see legislation t…
> I don't believe manufacturers should have to build things to be easy to take apart, to be replaceable or upgradeable, or anything else along those lines.
Why not?
> I'd rather see legislation that ensures when a piece of tech reaches the end of its useful lifetime it can be submitted back to the manufacturer and properly recycled at no cost to the user.
It is always and exclusively at the cost of the user?
Re: Internal Documents Show Apple Is Capable of Implementing Right to Repair
#8I guess I believe in this "right to repair" movement, but only so far as to ensure that if you're capable of taking your device apart and putting it back together without breaking anything that you don't automatically void some warranty. I don't believe manufacturers should have to build things to be easy to take apart, to be replaceable or upgradeable, or anything else along those lines. I'd rather see legislation t…
> I don't believe manufacturers should have to build things to be easy to take apart, to be replaceable or upgradeable, or anything else along those lines. Why not? > I'd rather see legislation that ensures when a piece of tech reaches the end of its useful lifetime it can be submitted back to the manufacturer and properly recycled at no cost to the user. It is always and exclusively at the cost of the user?
Making something that’s easy to take apart often makes it bigger, because interfaces need to be modularized. I’ve never needed to open one of my iPhones and would not want them 1mm thicker to be repairable.
Re: Internal Documents Show Apple Is Capable of Implementing Right to Repair
#9I guess I believe in this "right to repair" movement, but only so far as to ensure that if you're capable of taking your device apart and putting it back together without breaking anything that you don't automatically void some warranty. I don't believe manufacturers should have to build things to be easy to take apart, to be replaceable or upgradeable, or anything else along those lines. I'd rather see legislation t…
I think you are misconstruing the aims of the right to repair movement. Its nothing to do with forcing companies to make it "easy" to repair, but rather about preventing companies from including "features" which serve no purpose besides preventing third party repair.
An example would be a tractor that is designed to be cheaply serviceable, but has a feature which disables any replaced parts until a message signed by the the original equipment manufacturer and authorizing the replacement part has been received.
Re: Internal Documents Show Apple Is Capable of Implementing Right to Repair
#10I guess I believe in this "right to repair" movement, but only so far as to ensure that if you're capable of taking your device apart and putting it back together without breaking anything that you don't automatically void some warranty. I don't believe manufacturers should have to build things to be easy to take apart, to be replaceable or upgradeable, or anything else along those lines. I'd rather see legislation t…
So I assume there may be at least 2 distinct issues:
1 preventing people to repair their hardware with software locks, not selling parts, not providing documentation, copyrighting schematics, repairs manuals and doing all you can to not allow third parties to fix hardware.
2 building thins that are impossible or hard to repair because you don't care about the fact that for a broken key you have to replace half the laptop because your profits are high enough and making a more repairable device is too much work , more expensive or not as cool looking.
IMO point 1 should be illegal, I should be able to buy parts for my laptop,computer,phone,car or other device and have a specialist repair my device.
Point 2 is more debatable, some manufacturers could abuse this to force you buy new things when the warranty expires rather then you replace the broken component. At least forcing the companies to pay the correct price for proper recycling without hidden externalities would help on this point.