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‘Making Amazon look bad’: Microsoft supports a state tax on businesses

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Re: ‘Making Amazon look bad’: Microsoft supports a state tax on businesses

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>I do not understand how people can not understand that a percentage tax, by it's definition, does have the largest companies pay more. They don't understand it because it isn't true on a proportional basis (and in some cases on an absolute dollar value basis, too). Larger companies have access to tax avoidance strategies which are unavailable to smaller companies[1] which substantially changes the calculus. I've gon…

Why is that important? I have two taxpayers, Roy the rich ($1000 / month) and Peter the poor ($100 / month). Today we will have a 10% flat tax. Peter pays $10. Roy pays $100. The total tax take is $110 and Roy is paying 91% of it. If we imagine a 'comfortable' lifestyle costs $200/month then there is an argument against using this flat tax system, but it is difficult to escape from the fact that Roy is doing almost a…

There's multiple glaring problems with your example, but the main issue for the economy is that Peter the poor spends a much larger proportion of his income as a necessity to survive.

Society as a whole benefits from Peter the poor paying proportionally less in taxes because Roy the rich simply does not consume the same proportion of his income (let's keep in mind, that in real life, Roy is 100,000 times richer than Pete, not 10x). Taxing Roy proportionately more is not only the ethical thing to do, but also the rational thing to do if you want a strong economy.

These policies aren't about what you find fair, they're in place because they are what make society prosperous.

Re: ‘Making Amazon look bad’: Microsoft supports a state tax on businesses

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> Microsoft is a relative underdog now (among the tech giants). Microsoft is currently the largest company in the world by market cap.

Hmm, that's surprising. It has a dodgy foothold in mobile, Amazon (and possibly also Google?) has it beat in cloud services, Google Docs has taken a chunk of Office's territory, Chrome OS is overtaking Windows in education, Mobile+Apple+Chrome OS are swallowing it in personal computing and (I believe) gaining some ground even in enterprise. It doesn't seem like Microsoft has dominance in anything but desktop OS right…

I just... I miss the old Hacker news... This isn't reddit...

Re: ‘Making Amazon look bad’: Microsoft supports a state tax on businesses

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They will have paid a lot in payroll taxes and sales taxes. Their employees will have paid taxes on their income as well. I say this because when people make a simplistic statement about a company not paying much or any taxes on profits a lot of people are mislead into believing the company is somehow not contributing to government revenue. Which is obviously not the case at all.

The buyer pays the sales tax, not Amazon. Of course, even that assumes that Amazon properly forwards all the sales taxes they collect and don't keep any.

Amazon buys stuff.
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