BBC podcasts on third-party apps

Post by monkeynotes » Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 1:10 PM UTC

snapdangle wrote: post #51

monkeynotes wrote: post #17

While I understand the objections to Google self promoting their products and masking audience data I don't see how removing their podcasts from one of the most popular platforms helps with what the BBC claims to be important. "What we think is important is pretty simple. We want people to have easy access to the wide range of BBC programmes, not just a select few, and be able to discover and listen to new ones reall…

If Google Podcasts has gone from non-existence to being "one of the most popular platforms" in a matter of months, its actually an insanely good reason not to engage with them at all.

Post by scarface74 » Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 1:14 PM UTC

Spivak wrote: post #55

scarface74 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More and more platforms are popping up creating “exclusive” podcasts I think the issue is that you put the emphasis on “exclusive” instead of “podcasts”. If it isn’t delivered over an RSS feed that I can subscribe to in my podcast player of choice, it’s not a podcast.

Seems odd to define a thing by how it's packaged and consumed rather than the content itself. An episodic internet radio show doesn't stop being a podcast just because you're listening to it through winamp. Would all it take to convince you that a podcast can delivered via something other than RSS, say ActivityPub, be your preferred client supporting it?

Post by nyolfen » Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 1:19 PM UTC

eddieroger wrote: post #15

Jsharm wrote: post #8

I don't know why BBC pushes it's sounds app so hard. I get nagged to use it every time I listen through Alexa too. There's no BBC sounds smart speaker so why do they care? What do they gain from me using the app?

Because when you use their ecosystem, they get user data. They acknowledge that in their blog post: > We also want to make our programmes and services as good as they can possibly be - this means us getting hold of meaningful audience data. They claim it's because they're a public service and need to know what the public want, but there are other ways, and I'm torn on if it's a legit case or not. NPR has been trying…

Post by lbacaj » Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 1:22 PM UTC

simias wrote: post #42

lbacaj wrote: post #31

Technically speaking the way Podcasts work is a fascinating thing. Most on HN May be familiar with this already but Podcasts are completely open and a creator simply publishes an RSS that they then provide to a podcast App such as iTunes so it can appear on the Apple podcast app. In exchange most of these podcast apps share any listen counts and analytics with the owner of the Podcast. However, almost always the file…

Admittedly I don't consume a massive amount of podcasts but I don't have a problem with this move towards a more closed platform. If people want to make money from their work as podcasters they basically have three possibilities: beg for donations, ad tons of ads before, after and often in the middle of the podcasts or move to a subscription model (which means the podcast is no longer available for free). Since I veh…

Post by kj4ips » Thu, Mar 28, 2019, 1:23 PM UTC