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Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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Kids these days do a lot of disgusting things. They don't know how to write their own linker scripts, read assembly, or code in a real man's language (C). They think dynamic typing is "fun" and "productive". They don't even know how to manage threads or memory and use entire megabytes of RAM to send messages to each other using an inferior version of irc. Primarily they constantly waste precious cycles, eat quiche, a…

As a counterpoint I would say that the old people that in that high level language called C, (real men use Punch cards ;) ), had no clue about user interfaces, developer productivity, used waterfall models for planning, and in general, creating something that was somewhat horizontal and useful ended up being a titanic task, and also with crazy price tags. Wait let me write that client/server software again using CORBA :(.

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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Real programmers don't actually use any language, as their time is best spent in forums and chat rooms arguing with non-real (integer?) programmers why they aren't real programmers.

Integers are real numbers. Perhaps they are arguing with imaginary programmers.

I think this is a reference to an old joke about "God is Real, unless declared as Integer" since in Pascal Real and Integer are data types.

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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This reminds me of the famous quote by Socrates: “The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and…

Sorry. https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/

But a similar quote about the young is completely real -- just not by Socrates (who after all wrote nothing), but rather by Aristotle -- Book II, Part 12 of his "Rhetoric" has him complaining about young people -- it's a long passage, but some gems "They have exalted notions, because they have not yet been humbled by life or learnt its necessary limitations; moreover, their hopeful disposition makes them think themselves equal to great things-and that means having exalted notions. They would always rather do noble deeds than useful ones: their lives are regulated more by moral feeling than by reasoning."

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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post #53

Kids these days do a lot of disgusting things. They don't know how to write their own linker scripts, read assembly, or code in a real man's language (C). They think dynamic typing is "fun" and "productive". They don't even know how to manage threads or memory and use entire megabytes of RAM to send messages to each other using an inferior version of irc. Primarily they constantly waste precious cycles, eat quiche, a…

As a counterpoint I would say that the old people that in that high level language called C, (real men use Punch cards ;) ), had no clue about user interfaces, developer productivity, used waterfall models for planning, and in general, creating something that was somewhat horizontal and useful ended up being a titanic task, and also with crazy price tags. Wait let me write that client/server software again using CORB…

Planning is for imbeciles who are unable to fly by the seat of their pants.

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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post #47

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Try it in vim, it works! It's an escape char for the space ;)

Vim is for \(avocado toast | quiche\) eaters. It's bloated. Real programmers use ed.

Exactly. ed(1) is the standard text editor:

https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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You should clarify in the text of your comment that the quote is apocryphal, as not everyone will click your link.

Apologies.

Oh no, just a friendly suggestion! I was about to post a similar comment myself, not realizing immediately that you'd beaten me to it.

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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post #54
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Integers are real numbers. Perhaps they are arguing with imaginary programmers.

I think this is a reference to an old joke about "God is Real, unless declared as Integer" since in Pascal Real and Integer are data types.

The joke is actually about FORTRAN, where variables don't have to be declared, and is implicitly declared as Integer if it's first letter is in the range I-N and otherwise implicitly declared as the type Real (usually 32-bit floating point). Thus the variable GOD will implicitly be of type real.

Pascal have the same type names, but does not allow implicit declarations.

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