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Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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Kids these days do a lot of disgusting things. They don't know how to write their own linker scripts, read assembly, or code in a real man's language (C). They think dynamic typing is "fun" and "productive". They don't even know how to manage threads or memory and use entire megabytes of RAM to send messages to each other using an inferior version of irc. Primarily they constantly waste precious cycles, eat quiche, a…

I figured I'd check: is "Ken" Ken Thompson?

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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> Real Programmers use FORTRAN. Ahem. No. Real Programmers use machine code. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html

The story features a programmer who coded in hexadecimal. It sounds a little apocryphal, but I worked with such a man myself – Tim Paterson, the creator of QDOS, which became MS-DOS. At the time he was on the Visual Basic compiler team at Microsoft, and I would go into his office while he was looking at hex dumps, which he found faster than reading disassembly.

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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Kids these days do a lot of disgusting things. They don't know how to write their own linker scripts, read assembly, or code in a real man's language (C). They think dynamic typing is "fun" and "productive". They don't even know how to manage threads or memory and use entire megabytes of RAM to send messages to each other using an inferior version of irc. Primarily they constantly waste precious cycles, eat quiche, a…

This reminds me of the famous quote by Socrates:

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

#35

Kids these days do a lot of disgusting things. They don't know how to write their own linker scripts, read assembly, or code in a real man's language (C). They think dynamic typing is "fun" and "productive". They don't even know how to manage threads or memory and use entire megabytes of RAM to send messages to each other using an inferior version of irc. Primarily they constantly waste precious cycles, eat quiche, a…

IRC wasn't a great experience for a lot of things back in the day unless you setup your own bouncer/relay.

Real programmers set up their own bouncer relays

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

#36

Kids these days do a lot of disgusting things. They don't know how to write their own linker scripts, read assembly, or code in a real man's language (C). They think dynamic typing is "fun" and "productive". They don't even know how to manage threads or memory and use entire megabytes of RAM to send messages to each other using an inferior version of irc. Primarily they constantly waste precious cycles, eat quiche, a…

I figured I'd check: is "Ken" Ken Thompson?

Presumably, though I bet Mel would be an even better figure here: http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

#38

Kids these days do a lot of disgusting things. They don't know how to write their own linker scripts, read assembly, or code in a real man's language (C). They think dynamic typing is "fun" and "productive". They don't even know how to manage threads or memory and use entire megabytes of RAM to send messages to each other using an inferior version of irc. Primarily they constantly waste precious cycles, eat quiche, a…

This reminds me of the famous quote by Socrates: “The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and…

Sorry.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/05/01/misbehave/

Re: Real Programmers Don't Use Pascal (1982)

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> Real Programmers use FORTRAN. Ahem. No. Real Programmers use machine code. http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html

A real programmer can write FORTRAN 77 in any language.

Actual thing. Friend of mine is retired black female programmer who mentioned hot patching assembly on IBM mainframes back in the late 60's.

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