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Fifty Women Say Salesforce Helped Sex Traffickers Exploit Them

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I wonder whom did Salesforce annoy enough to warrant a media smear campaign against them.

anyone who's ever had to build anything on it. but yeah this smells like an attack.

Is Apex still a thing? When I was at my first internship that environment was one of the only things that has ever made me consider quitting programming.

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Big data will be used to identify, track, isolate, and then indoctrinate the most vulnerable members of society.

You will be shadow banned and gas lit into a pipeline that serves to supply the insidious demands of those who see humans only as resources.

We coders will unwittingly(poorly compensated) or wittingly(well compensated) algorithmically functionalize the pimp psychology and business practice into a system of sinister use.

For now it's just immigrants driving cars and delivering food, but you might guess what comes next.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Benioff seems like a tool. He puts his name on children’s hospitals...it is possible to donate without people knowing, Keanu does it all the time. If you don’t hate Salesforce, you haven’t been paying attention. I’ve wanted forever to rid our company of anything to do with Salesforce, but I work with some people that can’t handle change. This law suit seems like a money grab. Go after the deepest pockets, but I perso…

You are complaining about someone donating to a children's hospital and being credited for it?

Judging from the following line "Keanu does it all the time", I guess you can get credit for it you just have to donate anonymously and then have others tell people about it :)

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"Starting in 2013, when Backpage’s growth stalled, Salesforce took on the web portal as a client and provided tools to help manage its “trafficker and pimp database,” resulting in Backpage’s resurgence, according to the complaint. The lawsuit includes an order form billed to Backpage that’s dated in December 2016."

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Benioff seems like a tool. He puts his name on children’s hospitals...it is possible to donate without people knowing, Keanu does it all the time. If you don’t hate Salesforce, you haven’t been paying attention. I’ve wanted forever to rid our company of anything to do with Salesforce, but I work with some people that can’t handle change. This law suit seems like a money grab. Go after the deepest pockets, but I perso…

You are complaining about someone donating to a children's hospital and being credited for it?

Is this a Curb Your Enthusiasm reference?

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Seems like this would all boil down to knowledge and intent. I have no love for salesforce but it seems like a big of a stretch to go after a tools manufacturer.

As a tools provider, sure, it makes no sense. But aren't they also a big services company as well, like Oracle? Will there be some record of an engagement on how to manage these particular pages? And it would also be nice of "journalists" would differentiate between prostitution and sex trafficking. The cops, of course, are using the most inflammatory term possible to justify their actions.

> And it would also be nice of "journalists" would differentiate between prostitution and sex trafficking. The cops, of course, are using the most inflammatory term possible to justify their actions.

This is a civil suit, not criminal, brought by women who claimed they were abused by traffickers, which was enabled by Salesforce.

I can't find a single reference to the police in this piece, and the article clearly states that the plaintiffs allege trafficking in their case. So the piece is exactly correct to use the term "trafficking".

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It's impossible to evaluate the legitimacy of this without more technical details. "Providing customized database tools" could mean all sorts of things.

Salesforce allegedly helped them with their "trafficker and pimp database".

On one hand, that's Salesforce doing their job well. On the other, seems like they would know what's going on.

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It's impossible to evaluate the legitimacy of this without more technical details. "Providing customized database tools" could mean all sorts of things.

I would think they'd need to demonstrate that Saleforce knew that Backpage engaged in illegal practices. Considering that anyone can signup for Saleforce through an automated system and begin using it, this would be difficult. It would be like trying to go after google because Backpage used gmail.
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