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Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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...then you're free to enjoy the "advantages" of "stricter borders" together with messed up copy right laws that will stop you from creating and sharing on open platform websites, you deserve them both :) Have fun with your totalitarian nationalist utopia: if you think anything referencing technologies like "upload filters" (their simple EXISTENCE!) is about anything then enabling tools of totalitarian mass control o…

> ...then you're free to enjoy the "advantages" of "stricter borders" together with messed up copy right laws that will stop you from creating and sharing on open platform websites, you deserve them both :) Have fun with your totalitarian nationalist utopia Sorry, but you have it backwards. It isn't some "totalitarian nationalist utopia" that passed those laws, but the "European union". And nation states are not by a…

I'm particularly fond of the idea of a European Federation (I don't think the "European Union" went far enough, that's why it's failing... but hopefully the fire can be rekindled in an upgraded "globalism 2.0" movement once people see how bad the current tendencies work). This is why I hate it when the EU forgets its true purpose of acting like an Empire for European Culture and Civilization, and starts behaving like some kind of petty authoritarian "European Nation", pushing out laws like this, instead of focusing on measures to accelerate growth of EU's economy and push back the profits into "synthetizing more imperial culture".

Empires bring civilization and prosperity - from The Roman Empire to The British Empire and The French "Empire(s)", to the decades of "American imperialism", if you objectively weigh the good and the bad, they've all brought humanity together and pushed it further in science and technology and integration.

A combination of "empires" or "federations-of-federations", whatever you'd want to call then, and "swarms of city-states" (depending on the preference for more anarchy or more centrallization of each region) would be the ideal way to organize and develop humanity in my way.

"Nations" and "national culture" are an illusion that only brought pain and suffering: the great genocides of the first and second world war were precisely the result of thinking in terms of nations, and of distorting this concept to become "race-nation" or something else. If you just wipe the N-word form conceptual landscape and dictionaries, there's simply nothing left for evil authoritarian dictators to distort... humanity falls back to "an organic order" that naturally leads to micro-tribes and micro-city-states that organize themselves inside empire-federations ("anarchy in the small" + "hyper-integration in the large", "order powered by chaos" in a way) bringing greater freedom for us isolated individuals, because and imperial authority's hand is always far away, easy to hide from it when it threaten's your freedoms if you're smart enough and know how to dissimulate what you're actually doing (and "more freedom for the cleverest" is what you'd want anyway), whereas local power is always close and inescapable.

The whole idea of "direct democracy" and "local decision making" above micro-level (province-size tribe, city etc.) is bad imo. These "local decisions" are always crap. They only satisfy local power hungry manipulative psychopaths. You can't solve planetary climate-change and ecological destruction with local decision making!

And EU's latest legislative decisions are crap precisely because they are made from a point of weakness, the bureaucrats have retreated in a small "holdout" and they started thinking like a "nation"! If they would think more like an empire, they would think at the technical efficiencies of how exactly technically a law impacts at the scale of an empire and the timeframe of centuries (because, at least in spirit and produced knowledge, empires and imperial cultures are meant to last thousands of years) the economy, and they'd realise that a strong EU doesn't need to "squeeze some petty cash" from corporations in the short term, it plans to out-grow and out-power any imaginable corporation (because it could operate beyond the "sandbox" of monetary economy and because it would be something people could believe in, like in a god, and be 100x more motivated / loyal / "fanatical" maybe than any profit driven corporate drones).

Anyway, I just hope that once humanity gets over the current "bottleneck" with some technical breakthrouhgs (let's say... going multi-planetar and developing self-replicatable intelligent technologies), we can get our heads out of our asses and reinterpret history in a more sensible way and refashion politics accordingly. The current worldview is "OK & safe for keepings us all alive and not killing each other" in this delicate phase, but utterly suboptimal, nonsensical, and hardly worth living for imo.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

#732

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What if, you had a worldwide mesh network of internet satellites, too many of them to take down...?

Countries could jam the signal or find you easily since you would also have to transmit data to the satellite.

laser uplink.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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As someone who grew up alongside the internet, I wonder if this is just part of the bigger picture of where the internet has always been heading... The bigger, more popular, and ubiquitous it became the more corporate and political powers were going to seek to rule it. Now were are at an age of internet giants with the GDP of small countries, and political elections being swayed by the bovine herds of Facebook and Tw…

Very interesting. If the dark web becomes popular though, won't the same people try to regulate it? They could make .onion link illegal for ISPs to load and kill it overnight.

Isn't one of the main points of Tor that other than by knowing that an IP is an exit node, no one is able to tell you're using it? And .onion resolution is entirely client side, no?

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

#734
post #519

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The postal service can send a box with say 10 * 6 TB hdd quite fast. Say 2 days for delivery. 480 000 000 000 000 bits / 86400 sec = 5555.56 mbit/s And you can send as many boxes as you like in parallel.

High throughput but extremely high latency networks are significantly less useful than current networks.

Yet, notably, copyrighted material meant for human consumption is exactly the kind of content that aligns best with high throughput/extreme latency scenarios.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

#735

As someone who grew up alongside the internet, I wonder if this is just part of the bigger picture of where the internet has always been heading... The bigger, more popular, and ubiquitous it became the more corporate and political powers were going to seek to rule it. Now were are at an age of internet giants with the GDP of small countries, and political elections being swayed by the bovine herds of Facebook and Tw…

Very interesting. If the dark web becomes popular though, won't the same people try to regulate it? They could make .onion link illegal for ISPs to load and kill it overnight.

That's actually already been proposed in Germany. The parliamentary state secretary of the interior ministry just last month said:

"People who use the darknet usually are up to no good. This simple realization should be reflected in our legal system."

and

"I understand why the darknet can be useful in autocratic systems. But in a free and open democracy, in my opinion, there is no legitimate use."

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

#736
post #484

A big part of the problem is that there is no single entity that defends the citizens interest in this instance. You have the Disney's of the world heavily lobbying to pass reforms like these, but who protests against it? - Online signatures? Gets laughed out of the room. They could be fake, they don't mean anything, they are paid, etc.. - Voting? Voting cycles are too long and voting decisions cannot be made on a si…

I like the idea of referendums. It shows how much people care about important issues. Internet polls are useless since they can be cheated and petitions suck because they don't measure how many people are opposed to the petition.

_Only_ if they are adequately defined (and it's clear what the legal effect is). Two and a half years on from the Brexit referendum, we are still arguing about what it even _means_, and it's not clear if people even want to leave anymore. Ideally, they should be considered advisory only, otherwise you could end up with a tyranny of the majority situation (a very slight majority is probably not a good reason to make sweeping changes), or at least require a supermajority. I'd also say that in a lot of cases people do not understand the implications of what they are voting for, hence my preference for electing a representative to make these decisions, who are at least in theory elected to consider this effects.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Right now, when one of my users uploads copyrighted material, I can take it down when I see it. Or when I get a complaint (DMCA takedown). We're taking about teenagers here, so it's not always clear to them that they cannot use ripped sprites from other games, or music, or whatever. Basically I can make the uploader responsible for what they upload. The secondary problem is that my biggest competitor also has a lot o…

> If I get a competitor from the EU in the far future, I just do the upload & sue trick. Pretty scummy behaviour :(

But a great idea to apply to all the websites of Article 13 supporters.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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post #411

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Even if some trillionaire decided to lay out all the wires for a new internet it wouldn't matter with respect to things like this. It would still be subject to the same laws. The same applies to radio mesh networking.

Even if some trillionaire decided to lay out all the wires for a new internet What if a billionaire launched a constellation of low earth satellites which provided Internet?

How are satellites different from the radio mesh networks they already mentioned?

They're not, regardless of medium, the same cops and IP lawyers can get on it and track down people to arrest and sue according to whatever laws are on the books, good or bad.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

#740

A big part of the problem is that there is no single entity that defends the citizens interest in this instance. You have the Disney's of the world heavily lobbying to pass reforms like these, but who protests against it? - Online signatures? Gets laughed out of the room. They could be fake, they don't mean anything, they are paid, etc.. - Voting? Voting cycles are too long and voting decisions cannot be made on a si…

You could vote for your country to exit EU.

Except the UK is bring into force a law that states:

> A person contravenes this subsection if the person makes pornographic material available on the internet to persons in the United Kingdom on a commercial basis other than in a way that secures that, at any given time, the material is not normally accessible by persons under the age of 18.

> [A notice that the section above is being contravened] must[ ... ]require the internet service provider[...] to prevent persons in the United Kingdom from being able to access the offending material using the service it provides;

That's hardly better for the Internet, and copyrighted material can _already_ be blocked by Court order - it's a small step to making that more widespread. Leaving the EU does not _necessarily_ solve this (it just moves the problem).

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