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Google removed my ads-free app for “deceptive ads”

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Post by ucaetano »

tkxxx7 wrote: post #298
ucaetano wrote: post #285

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Very poor where? In the US? The "very poor" in the US are rich in most of the developing world.

I am aware of this, anticipated this response from you (as you’ve repeated in this thread), and addressed it at the end of the comment you’re replying to. I do not believe that a global perspective diminishes the argument in any way.

Oh, it does. Only 5% of the global population had access to the internet in 2000.

If that doesn't qualify it as a product only available to the elites, I don't know what will...

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Post by godelski »

e12e wrote: post #126
wolco wrote: post #108

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A news site or blog needs to be https for you to visit for what reason? Is it ideology? Fear of network neighbours spying?

Probably fear of content injection (eg a third party on shared wifi injecting a pdf with a zero day exploit, or just some malicious Javascript).

More of a principle thing. SSL is easy to enable and the whole web should be encrypted. I fully support all the major browsers' decision to warn users about sites that aren't https (even without login). It doesn't feel like there's a good excuse to not have https enabled.

Re: Google removed my ads-free app for “deceptive ads”

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Post by tkxxx7 »

ucaetano wrote: post #301
tkxxx7 wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am aware of this, anticipated this response from you (as you’ve repeated in this thread), and addressed it at the end of the comment you’re replying to. I do not believe that a global perspective diminishes the argument in any way.

Oh, it does. Only 5% of the global population had access to the internet in 2000. If that doesn't qualify it as a product only available to the elites, I don't know what will...

Given the nature of your position it feels ironic to be saying to you that if you feel my family was amongst the worlds’ “elite” just because we lived in the US, then I believe you may need a more nuanced outlook on people. Also, there’s a tent-city of people outside my building who’d like a word with you.

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Post by thatoneuser »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #195
thatoneuser wrote: post #157

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Had similar experience. Several years ago app with 6+ digit installs in the first six months. Got some generic excuse and our app was down. We could contest but then they threatened to take even more away. I don't like these platforms...

What's sad is the apps that do need to be removed (ie asking for way more permissions) never do, and the ones just trying to get into the ecosystem get punished for automated incompetence. The cutesy act of Google is really getting old. I rather just do progressive web apps as they become more common and not worry about their crappy app store.

Exactly. Our app only had a few permissions, the ones needed for functionality. We only collected enough data to make sure we understood how people were using the app. I mean it was created to learn android - we didn't have huge goals, let alone nefarious ones. Yet AL this other junk goes right by.

Fuck Google. Idc anymore - fuck them. They rose to the top on the promise of "were different!" And "don't be evil". It's probably our own fault for trusting them but at this point if a competitor came out I'd jump at the chance to move to them and hasten Googles death.

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Post by thatoneuser »

netsharc wrote: post #167
thatoneuser wrote: post #157

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Had similar experience. Several years ago app with 6+ digit installs in the first six months. Got some generic excuse and our app was down. We could contest but then they threatened to take even more away. I don't like these platforms...

Cloud feudalism... https://hbr.org/2013/06/you-have-no-control-over-s

That's so perfect. Never thought of the word feudal ism specifically but it fits.

Were helpless. These companies run the world. Regulation needs to happen and I HATE regulation. But at this point Wed only be regulating like a dozen entities while giving citizens more freedom.

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Post by ucaetano »

tkxxx7 wrote: post #303
ucaetano wrote: post #301

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, it does. Only 5% of the global population had access to the internet in 2000. If that doesn't qualify it as a product only available to the elites, I don't know what will...

Given the nature of your position it feels ironic to be saying to you that if you feel my family was amongst the worlds’ “elite” just because we lived in the US , then I believe you may need a more nuanced outlook on people. Also, there’s a tent-city of people outside my building who’d like a word with you.

Oh, if you could afford a computer, even an used one, in the 90's you were definitely part of a global elite.

Heck, in 2000, just under 30% of the global population had access to properly built sanitation services.

And about 28% of the global population live with under a $1 (in PPP) per day.

Respectfully, I think you are lacking some context about life in other countries.

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Post by tkxxx7 »

ucaetano wrote: post #306
tkxxx7 wrote: post #303

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given the nature of your position it feels ironic to be saying to you that if you feel my family was amongst the worlds’ “elite” just because we lived in the US , then I believe you may need a more nuanced outlook on people. Also, there’s a tent-city of people outside my building who’d like a word with you.

Oh, if you could afford a computer, even an used one, in the 90's you were definitely part of a global elite. Heck, in 2000, just under 30% of the global population had access to properly built sanitation services. And about 28% of the global population live with under a $1 (in PPP) per day. Respectfully, I think you are lacking some context about life in other countries.

> Respectfully,

I’m not though, and I have already said so. My original “poverty is a spectrum” comment still firmly addresses everything you’ve said, so if we still disagree, we can agree that’s ok.

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Post by russh »

dhimes wrote: post #207
giancarlostoro wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's sad is the apps that do need to be removed (ie asking for way more permissions) never do, and the ones just trying to get into the ecosystem get punished for automated incompetence. The cutesy act of Google is really getting old. I rather just do progressive web apps as they become more common and not worry about their crappy app store.

automated incompetence I'm going to start using this term.

Google is truly the worlds leader in AI*

* Artificial Incompetence

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Post by [deleted] »

jabo wrote: post #269
maxxxxx wrote: post #172

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Seems this will be our future. A lot of systems will be massive, automated and do mostly the right thing. But to cut cost there will be no way to fix errors so if you get caught up in such a situation you are just sorry, out of luck.

This sounds like a good story line for an episode of BlackMirror.

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