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Re: Wikileaks promises release 7x bigger than Iraq War Logs, asks for donations

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post #31

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It did enhance aspects of the US narrative, and diminished others. This is a good thing, since it added to the overall truthfulness of the narrative. US strategy has been to hide the proxy war it's fighting with Iran from the American public, while increasing the rhetoric/rancor against Iran, so that eventually if/when there is more open conflict, the American people already view the Iranian people as barbaric subhum…

Your second paragraph doesn't make any sense to me. It seems to suggest that Americans would look more favorably on Iranians if we knew they were helping kill American teenagers. I feel bad for taking even a baby step further into this political tar pit, but my nerd brain lacks an exception handler for the weirdness it just encountered.

That is not the intended implication. The US is not currently powerful enough to add a full-fledged war against Iran to its docket of wars.

Military power = technology * money * public will

Since the public would not accept the sacrifices necessary to engage in an all-out war with Iran, the US is hamstrung. How to fix this? Simple, increase the public will toward war with Iran. Since the American public is growing skeptical of warmongering claims, and Iran actually has the moral high ground in this case, the US has no choice but to keep from the American people information that would cause some parties to demand a war that could not actually happen.

Re: Wikileaks promises release 7x bigger than Iraq War Logs, asks for donations

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The main thing about the Iraq War Logs was that there was nothing particularly new or surprising or shocking. Details about incidents, but nothing war critics didn't already assume had happened many times. When someone says "We've got horrible things to reveal", your imagination fills in the blanks, extrapolating from what we've already found out to even more horrible extremes. But then what Wikileaks revealed didn't…

Do you seriously believe the whole "the leak is very serious, but at the same time trivial"-story? It's a classic defense mechanism or tactic, depending on who you ask, in crisis management. I don't know any good English sources for this off the top of my head, but I it's called "trivialization", "minimization" or "disavowal". You can also google "crisis communication", "crisis management" or "image restoration" and…

"Do you seriously believe the whole "the leak is very serious, but at the same time trivial"-story"

All I know is that nobody looked through the leaked material and found something beyond what we already knew about.

Re: Wikileaks promises release 7x bigger than Iraq War Logs, asks for donations

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post #36

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Politico called it a "devastating portrait of apparent U.S. indifference to a pattern of murder and torture." BBC said the memos "Show U.S. 'ignored torture'". I only remember the New York Times anything that could be construed as favorable to the U.S. and I'm guessing that your impression was shaped by the NY Times article by Sabrina Tavernise and Andrew W. Lehren. Anyway, the reports of U.S. indifference and maybe…

You're addressing a different issue than the one my comment addresses.

Our comments both address the issue of whether the wikileaks release "enhanced the US narrative."
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