Mumble – Open source, low latency, high quality voice chat software
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Re: Mumble – Open source, low latency, high quality voice chat software
#2Mumble... What a blast from the past.
Used to use this for gaming alongside Vent.
If I'm not mistaken, the last update was in like 2017? Is it even in development any more?
Re: Mumble – Open source, low latency, high quality voice chat software
#3Discord has pretty much completely eaten Mumble's market. Free servers and a way better chat system ate Mumble's use case.
TeamSpeak is still used by milsim/flightsim communities because it support plugins which integrate the in-sim radios with the VoIP system.
EDIT: Got Vent and TS mixed up
Re: Mumble – Open source, low latency, high quality voice chat software
#4Mumble... What a blast from the past. Used to use this for gaming alongside Vent. If I'm not mistaken, the last update was in like 2017? Is it even in development any more?
Yeah, back in the day it seemed like Mumble and TeamSpeak dominated the gaming market that's now been completely swallowed by Discord.
Re: Mumble – Open source, low latency, high quality voice chat software
#5Discord has pretty much completely eaten Mumble's market. Free servers and a way better chat system ate Mumble's use case. TeamSpeak is still used by milsim/flightsim communities because it support plugins which integrate the in-sim radios with the VoIP system. EDIT: Got Vent and TS mixed up
It's unfortunate because Mumble is great, secure free software with interesting features. I used to be a linux distro package manager for Mumble. Once my friends discovered discord no one wanted to join my mumble anymore. I think the biggest problem was setting the damn thing up on the client side.
Murmur server is free though. It even runs great off of a home internet connection if you have the technical know-how to open the ports and set up a dynamic dns service.
Re: Mumble – Open source, low latency, high quality voice chat software
#6Mumble... What a blast from the past. Used to use this for gaming alongside Vent. If I'm not mistaken, the last update was in like 2017? Is it even in development any more?
> If I'm not mistaken, the last update was in like 2017? Is it even in development any more?
A 1.3.0-rc1 was tagged 9 days ago (17 March 2019): https://github.com/mumble-voip/mumble/releases/tag/1.3.0-rc1 But it does look like the previous stable release was in January 2017.
Re: Mumble – Open source, low latency, high quality voice chat software
#7I really appreciate Mumble's dedication to lowering latency.
Latency is a silent killer of conversation quality. When it's relatively small, you don't notice it's there, but it makes conversations more stilted because everyone's responses are just a bit less immediate. You chalk it up to the person or situation, rather than the software.
I'm not seeing anyone make significant attempts to solve or reduce this problem. To my ears, 2010-era Skype had lower latency than any VOIP software in mainstream use today, including Skype. And of course, latency over POTS was fantastic, albeit with terrible audio quality.
Re: Mumble – Open source, low latency, high quality voice chat software
#8For over 10 years I've been running a semi-public Mumble server. It's pretty much zero effort, low CPU and low bandwidth usage.
These days mainly just as a backup for when Discord lags, which over the past few weeks has been often. It's so nice to have a very good, open source, self-hosted, encrypted communications app as an alternative to yet another Electron app.
Re: Mumble – Open source, low latency, high quality voice chat software
#9I'd add "difficult to use" to that list. Difficult even for an engineer to use. Terrible.
It works great once you figure it out, but it could use a better user and admin experience.
Re: Mumble – Open source, low latency, high quality voice chat software
#10Discord has pretty much completely eaten Mumble's market. Free servers and a way better chat system ate Mumble's use case. TeamSpeak is still used by milsim/flightsim communities because it support plugins which integrate the in-sim radios with the VoIP system. EDIT: Got Vent and TS mixed up
Agreed. I think the Mumble project is awesome for what it is, but it's always never had the same design goals and simply doesn't have the ease of use (whether through lack of capacity/will or through it's server-based structure versus Discord's centralized server platform) of Discord.
Where I think Mumble particularly shined was being one of the first to broadly introduce the Opus codec which really set low latency communications into play. Mumble was really a champion in this space.
I find it hard to believe that Discord, in its design, didn't evaluate its competitors at one point and decide to follow Mumble in implementing Opus.