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Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by eurg »

gpvos wrote: post #265
zirror wrote: post #47

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The information is not yet published, however Julia Reda ( https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1110514210176462850 ) is working on it. Also, I would suggest voting on a party-bases i.e. voting for Pirates in your region.

Sorry, I voted for the Pirate Party the last three times, and they still didn't get enough votes for even half a seat the last time. There's a limit to how often I'm throwing my vote away. Luckily there are a few other parties with sensible policies.

votes for small parties are not lost, their main effect comes from causing the behavior of the large blocks to shift over time, even if only a little.

as an example, many parties now feature some feminist points, even though it was originally against their ideology.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by throwaway357H »

gpvos wrote: post #265
zirror wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The information is not yet published, however Julia Reda ( https://twitter.com/Senficon/status/1110514210176462850 ) is working on it. Also, I would suggest voting on a party-bases i.e. voting for Pirates in your region.

Sorry, I voted for the Pirate Party the last three times, and they still didn't get enough votes for even half a seat the last time. There's a limit to how often I'm throwing my vote away. Luckily there are a few other parties with sensible policies.

I‘ve heard the same reasoning from someone who voted for „one of the big parties“ so his vote wouldn‘t be thrown away, the same person is ow complaining about the politics of the party he voted for. If you don’t give your vote to a party, just because it could be lost, you will ultimately end up with only 1 party to vote for.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by ivolimmen »

koonsolo wrote: post #415
cr1895 wrote: post #395

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>with this new revelation, I'm forced to move abroad with my company. Can you elaborate why that is?

Right now, when one of my users uploads copyrighted material, I can take it down when I see it. Or when I get a complaint (DMCA takedown). We're taking about teenagers here, so it's not always clear to them that they cannot use ripped sprites from other games, or music, or whatever. Basically I can make the uploader responsible for what they upload. The secondary problem is that my biggest competitor also has a lot o…

Your platform needs to make at least x million a year and have userbase of x million and exist for at least x years. Only then the filtering is mandatory...

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by chris_mc »

chris_mc wrote: post #189
nabla9 wrote: post #174

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Climate change denial is large problem only in Anglosphere. Germany did more than any other country to realize the modern renewable-energy industry and it's failed its climate goals. The lesson should be that you have to try every tool in the toolbox, including nuclear energy. Fukushima accident revealed the irrationality of the public. Fukushima-scale accident every decade somewhere in the world would be low cost to…

Nuclear isn't built because it isn't financially viable. I'd love to see more nuclear, but it just isn't going to happen anytime soon. Maybe if we added a carbon tax that was reasonable considering the climate emergency it might be.

I would seriously like to hear from you folks why you disagree with my statement above, please comment. I have a feeling it's either rabid pro-nuke folks (I was a nuclear technician in the Navy, so I am also pro-nuke) or the pro-oil folks that disagreed with my carbon tax proposal. I have no idea right now why you think my position is wrong, so please enlighten me.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by fit2rule »

montenegrohugo wrote: post #241

A big part of the problem is that there is no single entity that defends the citizens interest in this instance. You have the Disney's of the world heavily lobbying to pass reforms like these, but who protests against it? - Online signatures? Gets laughed out of the room. They could be fake, they don't mean anything, they are paid, etc.. - Voting? Voting cycles are too long and voting decisions cannot be made on a si…

>So what do we do?

Whenever you start to feel encroached upon by the new world order, the best thing to do is build another one right on top of it.

Build systems which route around this damage. It's the only way to be sure.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by yorwba »

DarkWiiPlayer wrote: post #317
yorwba wrote: post #250

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https://www.european-elections.eu/ is linked on europa.eu

Ah, I had seen that page multiple times, but was confused that it only presented the options "in ireland" and "in malta". I now found out that I have to scroll to the bottom and select Germany there. Weird.

The selection is based on the display language. If you're a native English speaker voting in the upcoming election, you're aussumed to be voting either in your home country (Ireland or Malta are the only ones where English is official) or "abroad", which is the third option. German speakers would be expected to visit https://www.europawahl.eu/ instead.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

philpem wrote: post #335
Hamuko wrote: post #281

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You sure about that? https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-42580523

Ooh, nice one. That's an even better example than Beethoven. Even better still: there's a song which consists of 4 minutes and 33 seconds of silence. That's it - silence. "Your latest video upload contains 5 seconds of stunned silence, which has been identified as an extract of 4'33". This extract is copyrighted. Your video has been deleted."

The creative elements of Cage's work are that it's performed as a piece by an orchestra, and presented as a work (eg a specific length, sold as other works are). Your any-[other]-length-of-silence doesn't infringe. If it did then Cage's piece would lack the artistic distinctiveness needed to make it a work for copyright purposes.

Just having a urinal doesn't infringe on Duchamp's "Fountain", not even if it's the same model, only if it is presented as artwork does it become a copy of Duchamp's "work".

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by chris_mc »

belorn wrote: post #285
chris_mc wrote: post #189

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Nuclear isn't built because it isn't financially viable. I'd love to see more nuclear, but it just isn't going to happen anytime soon. Maybe if we added a carbon tax that was reasonable considering the climate emergency it might be.

A carbon tax would be nice, but I rather see in EU a complete ban on burning coal, oil and gas for electricity. From there people can do what ever they want to solve the energy shortage during production lows, be that nuclear or other solutions. I doubt we will see any reasonable economics for nuclear as long coal, oil and gas is allowed to be burned.

>I doubt we will see any reasonable economics for nuclear as long coal, oil and gas is allowed to be burned.

True, and that's why the carbon tax would have to be super-high as to make oil and gas financially un-viable. Banning burning fossil fuels is a better step, though, I agree.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by chris_mc »

nabla9 wrote: post #201
chris_mc wrote: post #189

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Nuclear isn't built because it isn't financially viable. I'd love to see more nuclear, but it just isn't going to happen anytime soon. Maybe if we added a carbon tax that was reasonable considering the climate emergency it might be.

Prematurely closing the existing plants is insane however.

It depends on the cost, honestly. If the cost is too high, no utility will continue to run those plants. I agree with you, but the reality is that finance runs everything these days.

Re: European Parliament approves copyright reform

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Post by z0mbie42 »

jostmey wrote: post #370

Here's what will probably happen. A handful of websites and news outlets will create blanket legal agreements allowing anyone to freely link to their content. There may be some online paperwork that flies back and forth between the content provider and the person wanting to create the link. Websites offering these blanket agreements will flourish. Websites that do not provide their content for free will go unnoticed…

Agree. EU and France is buried under too much bureaucracy to innovate. And instead of solving this technical debt, our politicians add even more laws and bureaucracy :(
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