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My New Favorite Tool for Reviewing PDFs: Okular

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Re: My New Favorite Tool for Reviewing PDFs: Okular

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> You have so many rounds of back and forth on collateral that it’s clear you don’t have strategic alignment and it’s spilling over into stifling execution. What does this sentence even mean? Could someone ELI5 it to me?

you're changing the content so much that its clear the group doesn't have agreement on what should be created, so much that it's now spilling over to getting stuff out the door

Re: My New Favorite Tool for Reviewing PDFs: Okular

#52

> You have so many rounds of back and forth on collateral that it’s clear you don’t have strategic alignment and it’s spilling over into stifling execution. What does this sentence even mean? Could someone ELI5 it to me?

I had the same reaction. I started pulling my hair out at: "There are also tons inefficient ways"...

Re: My New Favorite Tool for Reviewing PDFs: Okular

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post #49

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You found that you had to download too much bloat to use Okular so you made an Electron app? Im pretty sure you dont have to download all of KDE to use one of its apps, just the package manager and the libraries Okular uses.

The Electron bloat of Polar buys you much better cross-platform features than the KDE bloat of Okular. Okular is ok as long as you run only linux. In theory you could run it also on macOS or Windows, but you have to jump through the hoops. That's not optimal for a productivity application.

What kind of cross-platform features does Electron provide that Okular does not have?

Re: My New Favorite Tool for Reviewing PDFs: Okular

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post #47

Okular is actually the reason I created Polar: https://getpolarized.io/ Well, one of the reasons. First, if you like Okular, you're stuck if you want to run on any other platform. It doesn't work on mobile, it doesn't work on the web, doesn't work on Linux, MacOS or Windows [1] Additionally, there were pretty severe bugs when I used it and there were 1-2 long outstanding bugs regarding annotations that weren't fixed…

Wow! Thanks for the self-promotion :-) Polar looks perfect for an academic environment. From a quick look the only thing missing is some kind of bibliography/doi integration.

We're working on it! We parse the DOI now and we're going to implement unpaywal DOI lookup for extended metadata. It's probably going to be a few more weeks before this is fully integrated though.

Re: My New Favorite Tool for Reviewing PDFs: Okular

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post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Electron bloat of Polar buys you much better cross-platform features than the KDE bloat of Okular. Okular is ok as long as you run only linux. In theory you could run it also on macOS or Windows, but you have to jump through the hoops. That's not optimal for a productivity application.

What kind of cross-platform features does Electron provide that Okular does not have?

I just told you: a friggin installer. All cross-platorm features are inconsequential if you can't easily distribute the application on multiple platforms in the first place.

Re: My New Favorite Tool for Reviewing PDFs: Okular

#56
post #37

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I can't confirm if this is still the case, but a couple years ago you had a web installer for KDE on Windows and I could just deselect everything except Okular and a couple other stuff I wanted and that came out to a couple hundred MB disk space overall.

That was the windows installer for KDE 4, yes. I used to install it on every windows PC I had to use. From a quick check now it is possible to install individual applications (Okular is not there): https://community.kde.org/Windows But it's not the same thing. At the times one was able to install the while kde4. That's a cross platform app!

I found this, which seems to be a build of Okular for Windows: https://chocolatey.org/packages/okular

(I haven't tested it -- happy Okular Linux user here. It was linked from the site you linked, though.)

Re: My New Favorite Tool for Reviewing PDFs: Okular

#57

Okular is actually the reason I created Polar: https://getpolarized.io/ Well, one of the reasons. First, if you like Okular, you're stuck if you want to run on any other platform. It doesn't work on mobile, it doesn't work on the web, doesn't work on Linux, MacOS or Windows [1] Additionally, there were pretty severe bugs when I used it and there were 1-2 long outstanding bugs regarding annotations that weren't fixed…

I can't edit my comment but I screwed up and made it sound like Okular doesn't run well on Linux. It does! It runs great on Linux. I meant to say it's not really cross-platform. I just re-evaluated and I can't figure out how to download Okular for Windows/MacOS. They have a Windows + MacOS page but they don't seem to actually have downloads.

Because Okular is build with Qt5 and the KDE Framework 5, Okular is with _little_ work cross-platform. There are nightly build available for Windows: https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/Okular_Nightly_win32/ I didn't try it, but I hear the Dolphin build (https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/Dolphin_Release_win64/) work well on Windows (just the terminal part is not available).

Re: My New Favorite Tool for Reviewing PDFs: Okular

#58
I use okular on gnome when I absolutely need to annotate the PDF, I could not find other alternatives. okular is heavy and slow but it gets the job done when it's needed. I hope calibre can support annotations one day for the file formats it supports.

99% of the time I use evince to read PDFs though.

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