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Golden Rules for Making Money (1880)

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Also mortgages.

Are mortgages really debt though? Because even though you owe, you also own as much as you owe (except during a market downturn of course). Whereas debt for a depreciating asset (like a car, or most things that go on a credit card) are what I would consider "real" debt. In other words, keep your net debt low or non existent (when looking at a balance sheet).

Of course it's debt. But it is secured debt, which is a bit of different risk profile.

Never forget though, you are paying quite a bit for the use of that money (i.e. the banks). This is mitigated in a rising market, but lots of houses (well land, really) don't appreciate fast enough to counter this.

Not to mention the additional costs. It might be more accurate to think of your house as a depreciating asset (the house) bundled with a (hopefully) appreciated asset (the land it is on)

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This guy has plenty of concrete advice: https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/category/mmm-classics/ It is very similar to "workout, eat right, sleep enough, drink enough water", as they are things that "everyone" knows they should do, but few have the will power and self discipline to actually do them. Budget. Get your expenses under your income. Set aside an emergency fund. Pay off your debts as quickly as possible. Then…

The advise Dave Ramsey and Mr. Money Mustache give are really only applicable once you already did the hard part and built a steady career. Their advice isn't going to help someone who works at McDonalds with several kids with several deadbeat baby daddies and no family support get out of poverty, nevermind build wealth. The fact that most of Mr. Money Mustache's readers (who answer surveys) are engineers really rein…

https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/07/25/50-jobs-over-5000...

https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/2013/08/05/50-jobs-over-5000...

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post #135

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In some countries there are no additional fees if you pay with credit card.

Really? How would that even work? Somebody has to pay the transaction costs...

May be the merchant absorbs them, may be the bank does not charge them..

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One modern trick to earn a tiny bit of extra money: Use credit cards for buying/paying anything at all, never use debit cards or cash: Credit cards usually pay a small reward point for spends which can often be redeemed as a cash discount later, and also since the expenses go to the credit card, the cash in the savings account stay untouched till the day you make the credit card bill payment, which will keep earning…

What about fees? Not sure about US, but I think in NZ all credit cards with cashback have fees. And I remember there was a research or something concluding that you had to spend at least ~$3000 (don't remember exactly) per month using cashback credit card to break even. Also, credit cards are not accepted everywhere. And often there is a minimum transaction amount as well.

The fee for the ANZ Cashback card is around $200, so you need to spend around $20k/annum to break even.

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post #139

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In some countries there are no additional fees if you pay with credit card.

No additional fees, but they get around that by offering discount for cash.

What I see in some countries is same price for cash or card.

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This will hopefully change in a few years, esp. with low-latency GEO satellite internet coverage (SpaceX, and other competitors).

(I think you meant LEO, not GEO.) I completely agree. It's funny that I didn't care at all about SpaceX and Oneweb before I bought this property, but they can't launch soon enough for me now.

Yes, I meant LEO (weird, can't figure out how I made that typo) -- or VLEO is the new term for what SpaceX is trying to do.

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4G coverage is actually pretty good these days.

Can you rely on that as your only internet coverage though? Most of the "unlimited" plans start to degrade the service once you go over 20 GB/month. Of course, depending on what you are using it for it could work (such as ssh over vpn tunnel, which is low bandwidth usage, however OS updates can blow away your monthly data allowance in a short period).

I'm currently using Ubifi[0] and the experience has been pretty great so far. I'm a few miles away from the nearest cell tower and I consistently get real world download speeds of up to 10Mb/s, with usage in the 100s of GB per month. To be fair, I did need to buy a Yagi antenna to get those speeds to be consistent, but that is a distance issue, not an ISP issue.

Costs $89.99 and I can use my router anywhere in the US if I want to. I've even taken it on a roadtrip and plugged it into my car's AC adapter, continued to work like a charm.

0: https://www.ubifi.net

Re: Golden Rules for Making Money (1880)

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post #38

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Are mortgages really debt though? Because even though you owe, you also own as much as you owe (except during a market downturn of course). Whereas debt for a depreciating asset (like a car, or most things that go on a credit card) are what I would consider "real" debt. In other words, keep your net debt low or non existent (when looking at a balance sheet).

==Because even though you owe, you also own as much as you owe (except during a market downturn of course).== Do you own that much? Let's put some real numbers on this. You buy a $350k house, and put down $70k (20%). That leaves you with a $280k mortgage at 4%. This gives you a monthly mortgage payment of $1,337. If you pay that monthly, you would own 51% of the house ($175k of equity) some time in the 16th year of y…

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Re: Golden Rules for Making Money (1880)

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post #38

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Are mortgages really debt though? Because even though you owe, you also own as much as you owe (except during a market downturn of course). Whereas debt for a depreciating asset (like a car, or most things that go on a credit card) are what I would consider "real" debt. In other words, keep your net debt low or non existent (when looking at a balance sheet).

"Are mortgages really debt though? Because even though you owe, you also own as much as you owe (except during a market downturn of course)." You also pay interest, which could be a huge amount (depending on how quickly, if ever, you pay off your principal).

The interest though isn't debt -- as soon as you sell the property, you only owe at that time the remaining balance, not the total amount of interest you would pay. In other words, interest is what you pay to rent the money used to buy the house.

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post #137

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In the Netherlands, credit cards aren't widely accepted because the local debit card system has no transaction fee. Without 3% card fees, the consumer prices are lower, so the whole country saves extra money.

In north america, I think they mostly (still?) aren't allowed to offer differential pricing - by law - which helped the rise of credit cards. There has been a lot of back and forth on this in law so YMMV depending where you are.

Not true since 2012.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/14/business/mastercard-and-v...

More details here, but some states ban surcharges while allowing cash discounts:

https://www.cardfellow.com/blog/cash-discount-eliminate-proc...

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