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Apple announces Apple Card credit card

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Re: Apple announces Apple Card credit card

#161

Just allow me to create as many 'virtual' credit cards from a single card and that's enough. Every single provider that promised that feature has either underwhelmed, or gone out of business.

As i understand it, this is part of what Apple Pay does anyway. Rolls a new use-once number per transaction.

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Most interesting claim is that there are no late fees. If you don't pay it on time, I presume they're going to stop letting you continue making charges to the card until you do? But that it never gets you locked into the debt cycle of so many other cards? If true, this is the true real innovation. Or is there interest, but just no fee for not making your payment on time?

There is interest, so you'd still be locked in the cycle. Just a little better off because they don't charge you $30-50 for paying late. But it appears they are much more forward on telling you how much interest you will be paying if you don't pay off the card.

Not sure how this fits in, but she did mention there's no higher interest penalty for late payments.

Re: Apple announces Apple Card credit card

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Where’s my perks? Lounge access? Hotel discounts? No reason for me to switch from my AMEX or Costco card for puny Apple points. Unless I missed something.

2% is pretty good for a card with no annual fee. You can get more if you use a card like Chase Freedom and keep track of your spending categories, but I don't know of any no annual fee card with more than 2%. Citi Double Cash is the only other 2% card I know of.

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#165

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That's not really interesting at all. See Citi Double Cash, Fidelity Visa, PenFed Powercash...

all of those have pretty big caveats. Citi seems the closest to straight 2% assuming you pay off your balance all the time, I didn't notice any limits on how you get your 2%. But they do have late payment fees. PenFed you have to be active duty military to qualify for 2%... Fidelity you have to put your 2% (not going to call it "cash") into a Fidelity product, no balance credits.

That's fair, but with caveats you can also get more than 2% back on every purchase and 4-5% on many purchases. For many people, that's easily worth it and I wouldn't settle for a 2% back card.

Re: Apple announces Apple Card credit card

#166

I remember reading an article a few years ago that said Apple has so much money overseas, the most logical thing they can do is to start a bank. Can't find it atm (I'm on mobile). But maybe that has changed after the GOP's tax law changes.

They aren't starting a bank. Apple Card is issued by Goldman Sachs and is on the MasterCard network.

Partnering with a bank to learn the ins and outs could be the first step towards starting a bank. Apple in/famously partnered with Motorola on the ROKR to get a feel of the industry.

Re: Apple announces Apple Card credit card

#167

How does something like this work in Europe with no signature on the card? When I tried to use a US card without a PIN that I hadn't yet signed, a German checker made a fuss about the missing signature. This isn't a problem in the US where no one bothers checking the signature. What about a brewery I went to this weekend where neither swipe or chip was available for their POS and the card number was manually entered?

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Re: Apple announces Apple Card credit card

#168
One of the reasons for having a Credit Card for me is the protection from shady merchants, fraudulent transactions and the assurance of getting my money back if there is a major issue with product/service.

AMEX once refunded me $1800 for speakers that were damaged in shipping with some documentation, photos and details about the issue.

Now, customer service varies from bank to bank but AMEX has always had the best customer service in my view, bar none. I wonder how Apple Card will stack up to it.

Re: Apple announces Apple Card credit card

#169

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I use Apple pay wherever possible. It is far quicker and more convenient than either cash, chip card or swipe in that order. Besides convenience, security and privacy are the backstop for my usage. I just trust Apple more to not be sleezy with my transaction history.

I'm not as much of a fan of it with faceID as I was with touchID. Double tapping the lock button is awkward.

Face ID for me is a godsend. For some reason, fingerprint sensors on Apple, Samsung, and OnePlus devices just don't work for me.

Hooray for FaceID!!!

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