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Re: Show HN: Baxx – Unix-friendly backup service

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Post by blattimwind »

bloopernova wrote: post #28

(Alternative product recommendation, please downvote/remove if you feel that isn't appropriate) For Unix/Linux backups, may I suggest Borg Backup? It encrypts and does dedupe astonishingly well. It also works over SSH incredibly fast, and restores are via a mounted FUSE filesystem so they're easy to pick and choose what you need. It prunes really well too, and is a single executable so it's easy to distribute via Ans…

The encryption in Borg is weak but otherwise it works well if it fits your use case.

Re: Show HN: Baxx – Unix-friendly backup service

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Post by blattimwind »

smnrchrds wrote: post #45
ebg13 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a common misconception, but proper placement is dependent on the language not the currency.

This is correct. Visit English and French versions of a Canadian retailer, e.g. Amazon.ca. The English version follows English rules ($29.99) and the French version follows French rules (29,99 $) even though the currency is Canadian dollars for both. EN: https://www.amazon.ca/?language=en_CA FR: https://www.amazon.ca/?language=fr_CA

Writing 29.99 € or 29.99 EUR is still super common even if it's English. This might be in part because the UK never really used euros (and will probably never use them).

Re: Show HN: Baxx – Unix-friendly backup service

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Post by zeveb »

blattimwind wrote: post #101
bloopernova wrote: post #28

(Alternative product recommendation, please downvote/remove if you feel that isn't appropriate) For Unix/Linux backups, may I suggest Borg Backup? It encrypts and does dedupe astonishingly well. It also works over SSH incredibly fast, and restores are via a mounted FUSE filesystem so they're easy to pick and choose what you need. It prunes really well too, and is a single executable so it's easy to distribute via Ans…

The encryption in Borg is weak but otherwise it works well if it fits your use case.

How so? When I glanced over it it looked trustworthy enough.

Re: Show HN: Baxx – Unix-friendly backup service

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Post by peteradio »

rsync wrote: post #79
xaybey wrote: post #39

For some reason there's a lot of negativity in this thread. I thought the txt file was really cool, signed up immediately, and have been having a lot of fun with the interface. I don't remember the last time I found registering for a SASS product to be fun .

" I don't remember the last time I found registering for a SASS product to be fun." Agreed. This: "The way you register is through ssh, just `ssh register@ui.baxx.dev`" Is very cool and makes me happy.

That is very cool, how is this accomplished??

Re: Show HN: Baxx – Unix-friendly backup service

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Post by metafunctor »

blattimwind wrote: post #101
bloopernova wrote: post #28

(Alternative product recommendation, please downvote/remove if you feel that isn't appropriate) For Unix/Linux backups, may I suggest Borg Backup? It encrypts and does dedupe astonishingly well. It also works over SSH incredibly fast, and restores are via a mounted FUSE filesystem so they're easy to pick and choose what you need. It prunes really well too, and is a single executable so it's easy to distribute via Ans…

The encryption in Borg is weak but otherwise it works well if it fits your use case.

Can you give more details on how the encryption is weak?

Re: Show HN: Baxx – Unix-friendly backup service

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Post by ebg13 »

nikeee wrote: post #76
ebg13 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That is only correct when writing in a language other than English. Doing it in English is a mistake transferred from doing it in other languages. http://publications.europa.eu/code/en/en-370303.htm#position

The link seems broken.

Lol, woah. Maybe HN broke the doc site. Here's an archive.org backup https://web.archive.org/web/20190323083630/http://publicatio...

Re: Show HN: Baxx – Unix-friendly backup service

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Post by johntash »

garettmd wrote: post #73
stavros wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Borg is hands-down the best backup utility I've used. I also use Borgmatic for some added niceties around checks/notifications/etc.

Does anyone know how it compares to Restic? That's what I've been using and have been pretty pleased. It seems like the main difference is that restic supports integrations with other services, whereas Borg seems uses SSH for its connections

I've used both Borg and Restic pretty heavily. I settled on Restic because it was much lighter on resources. A few of the servers I manage have small amounts of ram, but large amounts of data. Borg would often get oom-killed, but Restic wouldn't.

Restic also starts uploading changes as soon as it sees them, whereas borg has to scan the entire list of files before it starts uploading changes. Unfortunately for multi-tb datasets with millions of files, borg would take hours just to scan all of the files.

Pruning old archives also worked a lot better in Restic compared to Borg.

If you're happy with Restic, I'd keep sticking with it.

Re: Show HN: Baxx – Unix-friendly backup service

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Post by johntash »

StavrosK wrote: post #80
garettmd wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does anyone know how it compares to Restic? That's what I've been using and have been pretty pleased. It seems like the main difference is that restic supports integrations with other services, whereas Borg seems uses SSH for its connections

Restic looks pretty interesting, I wasn't aware of it, thank you. I don't know how Restic can achieve its goals, since AFAIK you need a binary running on the server to diff/check data/verify restores/etc without transferring all that over the network. Borg runs a binary on the server to do this, that's why it can't easily back up to S3 et al.

IIRC Restic keeps indexes of data it uploads to configured backends. I think it caches that index locally, but it can also download it from the remote backend to compare.

Re: Show HN: Baxx – Unix-friendly backup service

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Post by arendtio »

Two reasons why I do not want to use the service in its current state (meant as constructive criticism):

1. If I would send my backups to some SASS there is no way I would do that without encryption.

2. I like to backup my filesystem and not just the files in it (to make sure I've got everything and make restoring easy). Currently, I just dd my block devices, but I am sure that could be optimized to not upload a complete image every time.

Sure, I could solve those two problems myself, but then I could also use AWS S3/Backblaze ;-)

Re: Show HN: Baxx – Unix-friendly backup service

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Post by humblebee »

peteradio wrote: post #104
rsync wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

" I don't remember the last time I found registering for a SASS product to be fun." Agreed. This: "The way you register is through ssh, just `ssh register@ui.baxx.dev`" Is very cool and makes me happy.

That is very cool, how is this accomplished??

Enable empty password for a particular user, and set the default login shell to the registration program.

[0]https://github.com/jackdoe/baxx/blob/3d2f6f014e5def3b5c35496...

[1]https://github.com/jackdoe/baxx/blob/3d2f6f014e5def3b5c35496...

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