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Post by rahoulb »

AnthonBerg wrote: post #313
kgwxd wrote: post #297

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5S was the perfect size, if only it could run Linux.

What I like to use is: - Blink shell - hooked to a tmux session - connected with Mosh - over a ZeroTier network - to a UNIX machine in the cloud or at home (Linux, macOS, whatever). The effect is a really snappy and powerful shell in a full UNIX system that stays up and connected even though your connection is dropped or moves from wifi to cellular, and your networks still stay closed and secure. It's not the same as…

I also love BlinkShell and Mosh which is what makes using iOS as a dev/admin front-end setup workable

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Post by bunderbunder »

SamuelAdams wrote: post #308
unicornporn wrote: post #245

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In 5-10 years your biggest problem would be no more OS updates and no security updates.

Or app developers not updating their apps for smaller phones. When the minority of people cause the majority of the work, app devs tend to ship even if it's broken. Firefox is a great example: many sites are working great in Safari / Chrome, but are broken / not as nice when viewed in Firefox. Again, Firefox is used by considerably less people.

It's not even that alone, it's app developers both dropping support for the old OS in new versions of their app, and then actively disabling old versions of their app.

This was what ultimately did in my last iPhone. I kept it well past when iOS upgrades ended, and over time apps stopped working. At first it was stuff that's pretty easy to let go of. My mobile provider's app was the first to go, but I could still do everything I wanted through their website. Eventually it starts to be stuff that's sort of the whole reason you own a smartphone instead of a dumb phone.

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Post by wallflower »

SamuelAdams wrote: post #327
acqq wrote: post #201

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It's not just the size, which is prefect for a phone where you intentionally want to limit the screen time and to limit the total weight - There's an earphone jack. - The battery consumption is reasonable. - It has completely flat backside, so it's usable without the case. - It's easier to repair. - It can be put standing on its side for a photo triggered by a timer. I also don't know how to "signal" that I like it i…

It's possible to repair this? My iPhone SE's sleep / wake button died just last Friday. I took it to an Apple store and they basically said my only options were to buy a refurbished phone or a new phone.

I am assuming you do not mean the “home” button. If so, when I had an old iPhone 5 with a broken power (sleep/wake) button, I turned on AssistiveTouch to be able to lock the screen and reboot without using the janked power button. Without that, I would have had to buy a new phone.

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT202658

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Post by llampx »

toper-centage wrote: post #78
43920 wrote: post #67

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It's a lot easier for Nokia to do that because they use a version of Android that's basically stock. Samsung re-skins the UI and adds a bunch of features, so every time they upgrade to a new version of Android, they have to re-apply all those patches. (of course, whether they should do that is another question...)

That's part of the problem and why I rather not buy highly custumized versions of Android.

Given how android has been developing I'm happy to have done features from OEMs that google hasn't added yet.

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Post by Nextgrid »

ianai wrote: post #307
Nextgrid wrote: post #278

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I’ve used an iPhone X and XS. Touches on the bottom part of the screen (which replaces the home button) don’t interfere with touches on the other parts of the screen (so you can keep your finger on there and still use the phone), however they aren’t ignored per-se and will still trigger some events like bringing up the controls on the media player or something. Not a dealbreaker but honestly I still prefer true safe-…

This could be addressed with software. I assume that’s what’s going on in sci-fi adaptations of “smart slates”. They’re clearly a powerful platform, but it’s all for nothing without the right UI.

Honestly, unless software can read my mind to tell whether I intended the touch to be registered or not, I'd rather not have that.

No software solution is going to be 100% prefect and you'll end up with either degraded experiences (as an example, when you tap a link on iOS, there's a bit of latency - this is because it's waiting to see if it will be a double tap), or dangerous mistakes where it will still register touches that weren't intended.

As our phones contain more and more data and bear privileged access to a lot of systems (work, etc), an accidental touch can sometimes be disastrous. I have a friend for example that's a complete idiot with tech and never locks her phone despite holding it by the screen and pressing random stuff on it. Eventually she accidentally pressed the voice message button on WhatsApp and ended up sending a good 5 minutes of a very private conversation to a stranger.

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Post by noneeeed »

sfcguyus wrote: post #106

I 'downgraded' from an iPhone XS to an iPhone SE. I had misplaced my XS and got an SE temporarily. Best thing to have ever happened - the iPhone SE is the best iPhone apple has ever made. So much so that I have an XS and the SE and cannot get back to the XS. I know HN has some weird opinions sometimes that aren't representative of a majority. But I genuinely think if people used this or gave it a shot they wouldn't s…

My last iPhone was a 4s, it's been a while since I switched to Android. I sometimes think about switching back, and one of the things that attracts me is my wife's SE, it's a really great phone in a fantastic, convenient form-factor.

I have gotten gradually larger phones since my 4s, but I've recently started to use my phone less, and do so less impulsively, and I feel like switching to a smaller, but very capable phone like the SE would suit me very well.

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Post by pwython »

mlejva wrote: post #288

Interesting to see so many people here prefer smaller phones over big ones. I was using iPhone 5, 5S, and SE for over 6 years. This Christmas I switched to XR and I couldn't be happier. I feel like there are so many productivity things I can do on my phone that were annoying before. I use notes, emails, and even Google Spreadsheets much more. I started using the Kindle app for reading and I actually like it. Sometime…

I loved my 5S & SE, but I switched to a 7 when my SE broke, and now have the X. It took a while to get used to the size, but now when I look at my buddy's SE the screen looks TINY. Like I don't remember it being that small.

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Post by fastball »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #121
fastball wrote: post #87

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That ship already sailed when Apple introduced the concept of "locked" phones.

Was that an Apple concept? I think it was common quite some time before the first iPhone, at least in the US market.

Fair point. How about:

That ship already sailed when the concept of "locked phones" was introduced. A concept Apple already bought into with the first iPhone.

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Post by geofft »

damontal wrote: post #306
geofft wrote: post #81

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The iPhone SE is the smallest smartphone that gets security updates, of any platform. (And in 2010 or so it would have been bigger than any smartphone not being called a "phablet," so it's not so much that it's small as that it's the only reasonable-sized phone left in many people's opinions.) If Apple's historical support practice keeps up, it'll remain in support until late 2020 or 2021. Sent from my iPhone SE

5S doesn't get security updates any more?

Oh, it appears that it does, it's just worse hardware than the SE in the same form factor, and is actually discontinued.

I'm actually pretty surprised - that now means that the iPhone 5S has now gotten software updates for 5.5 years, which I think is a record.

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Post by make3 »

o10449366 wrote: post #7

The one thing that Apple does well is prolonged support for their phones. I switched away from Android phones because I got sick of buying the latest flagships only to have them lose software, hardware, and security support 12-24 months after release. The new iPhones don't appeal to me, but I'm satisfied knowing I can get a few more years out of my SE. I got my battery replaced 4 months ago after owning it for two ye…

that's a funny thing to say when coming right out of a scandal where they admitted to slowing down older phones. I know they have their reasons; not having told people is still unacceptable
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