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Re: Credder Wants to Create an Equivalent to “Rotten Tomatoes” for News

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Post by crististm »

rooam-dev wrote: post #64

Good luck to them if course, but I am not sure this will work. Couple of reasons come to my mind: 1. How will I know that news have been reviewed by qualified people? Technically this should be news agency/source's job. 2. By the time the score will depict the news' quality, the damage may be already done. 3. RT is based on people's opinions, but news should be fact checked. What I think it should do, is to score the…

> 3. RT is based on people's opinions, but news should be fact checked.

Except when RT doesn't like to hear people's opinion when it differs from the mainstream. Unfortunately it's easy to box it as "trolling" and hide it under the rug.

Re: Credder Wants to Create an Equivalent to “Rotten Tomatoes” for News

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Post by misnome »

icebraining wrote: post #28
misnome wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Alien being missing is an odd sign, especially as it has 99%. (IIRC it used to be the only 100% film, until some critic posted a new review saying it hadn’t aged well)

Alien is there (position 56).

Dang it I both scanned and searched the page, and safari browser said no text results.

Re: Credder Wants to Create an Equivalent to “Rotten Tomatoes” for News

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Post by crististm »

crististm wrote: post #71
rooam-dev wrote: post #64

Good luck to them if course, but I am not sure this will work. Couple of reasons come to my mind: 1. How will I know that news have been reviewed by qualified people? Technically this should be news agency/source's job. 2. By the time the score will depict the news' quality, the damage may be already done. 3. RT is based on people's opinions, but news should be fact checked. What I think it should do, is to score the…

> 3. RT is based on people's opinions, but news should be fact checked. Except when RT doesn't like to hear people's opinion when it differs from the mainstream. Unfortunately it's easy to box it as "trolling" and hide it under the rug.

Apparently I'm getting myself in a SJW hive. Shame on me.

s/hive/swarm

Re: Credder Wants to Create an Equivalent to “Rotten Tomatoes” for News

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Post by barkingcat »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #67
ddebernardy wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's the yardstick, one could just as well open the NYT, the WP, the WSJ, or [your favorite reputable newspaper] and call it a day -- no RT clone needed.

A large percentage of the population doesn't consider NYT, WP, WSJ reputable. They are all extremely biased by their politics. I can't even name a single news source that I'd call reputable and that I trust. That's why I like reading multiple sources on the subject plus comments on Reddit/HN.

If you believe this, then rotten tomatoes is absolutely the wrong model to follow, because all you're getting is the score that tallys up what NYT, WP, WSJ are saying. (or the average of the average ...)

Re: Credder Wants to Create an Equivalent to “Rotten Tomatoes” for News

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Post by beat »

bufferoverflow wrote: post #67
ddebernardy wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that's the yardstick, one could just as well open the NYT, the WP, the WSJ, or [your favorite reputable newspaper] and call it a day -- no RT clone needed.

A large percentage of the population doesn't consider NYT, WP, WSJ reputable. They are all extremely biased by their politics. I can't even name a single news source that I'd call reputable and that I trust. That's why I like reading multiple sources on the subject plus comments on Reddit/HN.

I think you're pointing to the wrong "they". The "biased by their politics" problem isn't with the mainstream news sources so much as the people who assume that anything that doesn't fit their worldview is a Deep State Lie.

Re: Credder Wants to Create an Equivalent to “Rotten Tomatoes” for News

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Post by nukeop »

ceejayoz wrote: post #63
ambulancechaser wrote: post #50

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https://www.rottentomatoes.com/top/bestofrt/ "Top 100 Movies of All Time" 1. Black Panther

There doesn't seem to be any indication in the "Adjusted Scores" popup that it's based on cinematography.

Don't play passive-aggressive, you know very well what I meant.

Re: Credder Wants to Create an Equivalent to “Rotten Tomatoes” for News

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Post by StreamBright »

rooam-dev wrote: post #64

Good luck to them if course, but I am not sure this will work. Couple of reasons come to my mind: 1. How will I know that news have been reviewed by qualified people? Technically this should be news agency/source's job. 2. By the time the score will depict the news' quality, the damage may be already done. 3. RT is based on people's opinions, but news should be fact checked. What I think it should do, is to score the…

There even further problems with this.

https://annofgg.files.wordpress.com/2015/11/img_8561.png

News quite often show one viewpoint.

Re: Credder Wants to Create an Equivalent to “Rotten Tomatoes” for News

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Post by martythemaniak »

crististm wrote: post #74
crististm wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 3. RT is based on people's opinions, but news should be fact checked. Except when RT doesn't like to hear people's opinion when it differs from the mainstream. Unfortunately it's easy to box it as "trolling" and hide it under the rug.

Apparently I'm getting myself in a SJW hive. Shame on me. s/hive/swarm

Did you mistake Rotten Tomatoes for Russia Today?

Re: Credder Wants to Create an Equivalent to “Rotten Tomatoes” for News

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Post by sverige »

dragonwriter wrote: post #54
rjtavares wrote: post #9

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RT's model prioritizes consensus in quality instead of brilliance. Using RT for a best of list will give you good safe movies instead of outstanding ones. I'd say it's a good model for news.

> RT's model prioritizes consensus in quality instead of brilliance. Using RT for a best of list will give you good safe movies instead of outstanding ones. > I'd say it's a good model for news. It's not, but then the whole concept isn't good for news. Particularly, a model with the effects you describe would favor news that, irrespective of the ground facts, avoids reaching conclusions that are going to be unwelcome…

If "news" involves reaching conclusions, isn't that really "editorial" content?

For example, it's one thing to report what AG Barr's letter on the Mueller investigation says, and maybe also what it doesn't say. It's also "news" to report what various players say about the report.

It's another thing for reporters to speculate what it means in terms of future investigations, or whether the report is "trustworthy," or to reach similar conclusions.

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