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Re: Car campers in beach parking lots

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Post by gnat »

karambahh wrote: post #121
gph wrote: post #112

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So we should never have parking lots, because they could be repurposed into homes for homeless people? I feel this is only really relevant to high-density cities that are being underdeveloped because of local regulations and NIMBY. Most of America has plenty of space when it comes down to it. And aren't the parking lots this article is talking about basically public access parking for beaches? Do ya'll really think i…

In all honesty, I'm not sure I understand your train of thought[0]: why would re-purposing beach parking into housing be dumb as an absolute? There are probably places where that would be dumb and others where the community as a whole would benefit from increased housing availability? Most of America has plenty of space but why would anyone agree to live in bumfuck nowhere? How could they make a living out of nowhere…

"bumfuck nowhere" ... Aussie or Kiwi? :)

Re: Car campers in beach parking lots

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Post by scarejunba »

lstodd wrote: post #106
sankumsek wrote: post #49

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Do you have a source for that? Not disagreeing, but I'd be very interested in reading up on how a high-rise might negatively impact my health seeing as I live in one right now.

Source? Hah. My life. I lived most of it in the high-rises, and not slums at all. "Respectable neighbourhoods". I'm not talking about slums. I pity the people who choose to live in those anthills. I hate people who advocate to force other people to live in those. I'm talking about overcrowding. Not enough private space, not enough public space, not enough transport. And it's a death trap if something goes just slight…

Brotherman, if you had all of those problems you didn't live anywhere respectable. I've lived twenty years worth in high and mid rises in three continents across a variety of incomes and not only never faced that but none of my neighbours did and none of us even expected it to happen. We'd have been outraged.

Listen, I'm not going to disrespect you for growing up in the projects or whatever. Those things are usually out of our control. But you got to let other people live the way they want to live, man.

Re: Car campers in beach parking lots

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Post by wiseleo »

saagarjha wrote: post #140
wiseleo wrote: post #139

It's amazing how little I truly need. I haven't paid rent since 2015 by choice. I can afford it, but see no reason to. I went to a camping store and bought the most comfortable air sleeping pad and other gear. My 4" thick sleeping pad is more comfortable than my bed. My total spend was less than $500. While working on my software, I make money as a field engineer. I drive to my next client and just park nearby overni…

Where do eat and bathe?

Gym membership to 24hour fitness. I have another $20/mo membership for Planet Fitness, for its massage chairs and in case I am in a state like Arizona without 24, but 24 is everywhere in California. 2 years for $650 at Costco. That's 2000+ options nationwide. Do a workout, go for a swim at 24 and chill in a massage chair at PF while my equipment recharges. :)

Eat? Wherever. I have plenty of money.

Re: Car campers in beach parking lots

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Post by ucaetano »

blunte wrote: post #145
ucaetano wrote: post #37

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Yep, there is a divide between the old people in power who know economics, markets and regulation but have no idea how "technology" works, and the young voters who understand the technology, but without an understanding of how the economics work.

I think you're much too generous. You can look at political decisions in most countries and see that politicians don't, on average, understand economics. For that matter, a great many economic theories (which are often presented as facts) don't hold up when tested. In summary, economics is hard. But making something (internet/web) increasingly unusable is just pure ignorance.

> I think you're much too generous.

Oh, definitely! Those in power don't understand that much of economics, and those voting don't really understand that much of technology.

Re: Car campers in beach parking lots

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Post by pjeide »

gnat wrote: post #151
karambahh wrote: post #121

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In all honesty, I'm not sure I understand your train of thought[0]: why would re-purposing beach parking into housing be dumb as an absolute? There are probably places where that would be dumb and others where the community as a whole would benefit from increased housing availability? Most of America has plenty of space but why would anyone agree to live in bumfuck nowhere? How could they make a living out of nowhere…

"bumfuck nowhere" ... Aussie or Kiwi? :)

Or New York or Connecticut or Colorado... or probably a myriad of other places that I've heard the phrase used.

Re: Car campers in beach parking lots

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Post by pjeide »

Kadin wrote: post #96
ChuckMcM wrote: post #78

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I agree they are heavy, and even more heavy than the bus chassis they are built on top of, but I see that as an engineering problem right? There are bus depot parking structures where unused commercial buses are parked. And my civil engineering friends are fond of saying that with enough steel and concrete you can hold up anything :-). So as a mental exercise in scaling density by going vertical, in my sketchbook usi…

It's certainly possible, but with a lot less steel and concrete you could just build walls and have, you know, apartments. My guess is it's easier to find investors for that, too. The only reason I can imagine a multi-storey RV park making sense would be to take advantage of some weird zoning quirk or something. But that's a lot of money to throw at what's effectively a legal vulnerability that will probably quickly…

Put the apartment buildings above ground, and RV parks underground with fresh air pumped in and fiber-optic lighting carrying natural light down from the surface. Have elevators going from below ground, and from the apartments, to ground-level retail complexes and terrestrial activities.

Then have underground hyperloop tunnels to connect the RV parks, so that you can go to sleep in your home and move it from city to city, and pop up above ground to enjoy local tourism.

Re: Car campers in beach parking lots

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Post by pjeide »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #103
Kadin wrote: post #96

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It's certainly possible, but with a lot less steel and concrete you could just build walls and have, you know, apartments. My guess is it's easier to find investors for that, too. The only reason I can imagine a multi-storey RV park making sense would be to take advantage of some weird zoning quirk or something. But that's a lot of money to throw at what's effectively a legal vulnerability that will probably quickly…

I don't disagree, the changes that a multi-level RV park bring are a more flexible pricing structure, a lower cost facilities budget, and perhaps a lower cost maintenance load. From a cash flow perspective I started with parking garages as a business model. The typical 'monthly parking' type garage is a concrete and steel affair with sprinklers and elevators as its biggest operational expense, a bit more if you add a…

Put the RV parks underground and pump in fresh air and fiber-optic daylight.

Re: Car campers in beach parking lots

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Post by pjeide »

breatheoften wrote: post #64

I rented one of those expensive Ocean Beach ocean-view houses right by the parking lot they are talking about for a few months once. I've also lived out of a van in San Diego for some range of years (I used to do Oceanographic research and traveled 3-5 months a year). I quite literally have lived both sides of this story -- although I never once stayed in the parking lot in question in my van. I honestly can't imagin…

OBD-II :)

Re: Car campers in beach parking lots

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Post by protomyth »

sixbrx wrote: post #149
protomyth wrote: post #135

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Depends pretty heavily on the place. South Dakota has some really good ones and some really bad ones. Checking the light poles generally tells the tale.

Now I'm curious, how to tell from the light poles?

If they are the fancy types (not city) and not broken then it is going to be good. Broken lights generally indicates neglect and crime.

Re: Car campers in beach parking lots

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Post by breatheoften »

pjeide wrote: post #158
breatheoften wrote: post #64

I rented one of those expensive Ocean Beach ocean-view houses right by the parking lot they are talking about for a few months once. I've also lived out of a van in San Diego for some range of years (I used to do Oceanographic research and traveled 3-5 months a year). I quite literally have lived both sides of this story -- although I never once stayed in the parking lot in question in my van. I honestly can't imagin…

OBD-II :)

That's the one! I really hope that ODBC is not introduced as a required part of vehicle safety regulations!
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