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Re: Dell Autism Hiring Program

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That list contained both weaknesses (no social skills) and strengths (doesn't engage in politics).

Doesn’t engage in politics (in that list) means that they will become a pawn for other people’s politics. Show me an office without politics and I’ll show you one with unlimited vacation time

"Office politics" is a euphemism for anti-social behavior as I see it.

And, an office "without politics" with more than two persons maybe doesn't exist, but there is certainly more "office politics" in Paradise Hotel than in my office, so it's not like anyone that stays out becomes a pawn in some scheme.

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It is a disability. Sure, Aspergers is usual beneficial to techies from a performance perspective, but it can be a massive disadvantage when dealing with people within an organisation. I used to work for a local authority in an sysadmin position and it was very fortunate that HR understood Aspergers, or my lack of social awareness would have got me sacked a few times. The upside of having Aspergers is only part of th…

It is disadvantage in tech world too. Saying as someone who had collegues like that and seen then shoot themselves and also shoot others (which ended shooting them indirectly) without knowing or meaning to.

It's an advantage for some parts of software development, but I would be surprised if it wasn't a net negative for the vast majority of developer jobs.

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A recent article posted on HN offering funding to women to study programming sparked a flamewar, with many users claiming that special hiring policies for women in the tech industry discriminate against men. The current article is about a special hiring policy for autistic persons in Dell. Luckily there doesn't seem to be a flamewar this time around. Of course, I wonder why. To be honest, I don't understand why so ma…

Autists are a tiny minority (2-5% of the population) and mostly male. Affirmative action for autists is hence unlikely to ever achieve a scale at which substantial discrimination can be expected to affect other groups. Women, OTOH, make up ~50% of the population, so affirmative action is going to have substatial side-effects by sheer scale as we are indeed observing in practice.

Also, having the man earn more is a substantial predictor of relationship quality, hence affirmative action for males has positive expected utility in this regard and negative EU for females.

Lastly, it is not clear that automation has positive utility at all because it leads to massive power concentration, so it's not clear that the brain power of women that goes unexploited is a detriment to the common good. (Also women with a career do not seem particularily happy.)

Re: Dell Autism Hiring Program

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Here's what I'm wondering: if they think this separate process is more reliable than traditional interviewing... why keep it a separate process rather than using it for everyone?

I've encountered this type of program before. The interviews often include tasks that traditional candidates would find boring and lots of repetition.

Example?

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Its not really relevant but the list seems to not actually describe Asbergers but some other collection of symptoms that results from being socially deprived. (However, this probably matches up with popular conception of Asbergers individuals.) I think the "key" is finding people who deal with their problems by diving deep in to technical tasks and becoming absorbed in minutiae. An unnaturally small interest set comb…

Are you deliberately misspelling Asperger's in the South Park vernacular [1] to be offensive or something, or is it just a mistake? [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ass_Burgers

Sorry I was up all night and didn't even consider that I was spelling it wrong. My track pad is broken and so I can't right click to spell check. (I am waiting to start my new job to get a new laptop.)

Re: Dell Autism Hiring Program

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The way our industry treats neuro-diversity is autistic. I am very dyslexic, the other day I misspelled the word TAB as TAP when implementing an event listener in a codebase +100K lines. It took me half a day just to find this bug. At LastCo I heard the project manager and scrum master joke behind my back "we'll just have the autist with OCD do the programming" while referring to me. In their mind lacking a "theory o…

It's a reason to fire that manager. I would report it higher up. If you hear it one time he does it probably all the time.

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By maintaining >50% engineering staff for so long, Google has inadvertently created a fascinating study of the interplay between two spectrums: autistic and psychopathic. More on the similarities and differences here, namely aspects related to empathy: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3826592/ It seems of no coincidence that so many of Google's social products have misfired - due in part to this interplay…

That has nothing to do with why Google+ failed. Or Allo. It's because everyone was already using Facebook and WhatsApp and those have extreme network effects, and Google+/Allo were basically the same thing just owned by a different company. You don't need to invoke autism to explain it.

Re: Dell Autism Hiring Program

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Wow, I used to work with someone who ticked every one of those boxes. Incredibly knowledgeable and spent all of their free time reading spec documents and programming. Unfortunately they could be emotionally unstable at times which was had to work around.

Its not really relevant but the list seems to not actually describe Asbergers but some other collection of symptoms that results from being socially deprived. (However, this probably matches up with popular conception of Asbergers individuals.) I think the "key" is finding people who deal with their problems by diving deep in to technical tasks and becoming absorbed in minutiae. An unnaturally small interest set comb…

:%s/Asbergers/Aspergers/g
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