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Re: Rethinking Streets for Bikes

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Let's not ignore the fact that Amsterdam is almost completely flat.

Ebikes have recently become really good and they flatten all hills with ease.

Yeah but regulation in EU makes them nearly useless, it's illegal to put in >250W engine and it can only assist to human torque.

Re: Rethinking Streets for Bikes

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Of course places such as the Northeast (USA) are also the worst candidates for the SF dream of bike dominance. Where I’m from (Colorado) the idea of bike-first is something we roll our eyes at, and generally rightly assume that the loudest advocates live somewhere else, don’t have families, and only go back and forth to work. That’s really not the whole country, no matter how much a minority of SV’ers want it to be.…

I've always thought cities with a snowy season would be great candidates for bike lanes. Bicycling drops dramatically in the winter, so the bike lanes sit mostly unused. This makes them a good place to deposit excess snow.

Ever consider that cycling drops because the bike lanes are where snow is either not cleared, or is used to deposit snow from auto lanes?

Re: Rethinking Streets for Bikes

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Ebikes have recently become really good and they flatten all hills with ease.

Yeah but regulation in EU makes them nearly useless, it's illegal to put in >250W engine and it can only assist to human torque.

How is that nearly useless? Have you tried keeping up with someone on an e-bike? Most people will not manage it.

Re: Rethinking Streets for Bikes

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Ebikes have recently become really good and they flatten all hills with ease.

Yeah but regulation in EU makes them nearly useless, it's illegal to put in >250W engine and it can only assist to human torque.

I live in UK/EU and use an e-bike. There are a few steep roads near where live that I would never attempt on my old bike that are a breeze to ride with the e-bike. I like that it's peddle assist only. I still get the benefit of the exercise, but I'm not dripping with sweat when I travel to work/meetings.

Re: Rethinking Streets for Bikes

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Yeah but regulation in EU makes them nearly useless, it's illegal to put in >250W engine and it can only assist to human torque.

I live in UK/EU and use an e-bike. There are a few steep roads near where live that I would never attempt on my old bike that are a breeze to ride with the e-bike. I like that it's peddle assist only. I still get the benefit of the exercise, but I'm not dripping with sweat when I travel to work/meetings.

I accept that but wouldn't it be better if we both had a choice that suits us? My city has hills that even my car has problems with.

Re: Rethinking Streets for Bikes

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Yeah but regulation in EU makes them nearly useless, it's illegal to put in >250W engine and it can only assist to human torque.

How is that nearly useless? Have you tried keeping up with someone on an e-bike? Most people will not manage it.

I need to ride up a hill that even my car has problems with. There are many more similar hills in my city (around 1.5~3 million people).

Re: Rethinking Streets for Bikes

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Ebikes have recently become really good and they flatten all hills with ease.

Yeah but regulation in EU makes them nearly useless, it's illegal to put in >250W engine and it can only assist to human torque.

It is totally legal to have a > 250 W engine, but then you no longer qualify as a cyclist. (need to have number pöates etc.)

Which is sad, but also my 250 W engine takes me up all hills on roads and only very steep mountains offroad are too much

Re: Rethinking Streets for Bikes

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How is that nearly useless? Have you tried keeping up with someone on an e-bike? Most people will not manage it.

I need to ride up a hill that even my car has problems with. There are many more similar hills in my city (around 1.5~3 million people).

Have you ever used a 250w ebike? They are incredibly powerful and they also come with gearing much lower than cars. The power on an ebike does not limit how steep you can go. I took a 250w ebike up a path so steep I had my chin on the handlebars to stop the front wheel lifting off the ground and the motor was powering me up fine.

Re: Rethinking Streets for Bikes

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I live in UK/EU and use an e-bike. There are a few steep roads near where live that I would never attempt on my old bike that are a breeze to ride with the e-bike. I like that it's peddle assist only. I still get the benefit of the exercise, but I'm not dripping with sweat when I travel to work/meetings.

I accept that but wouldn't it be better if we both had a choice that suits us? My city has hills that even my car has problems with.

Ebikes whip up hills with ease that lower power cars struggle on. The main limiting factor is they are limited to 25km/h by motor power but even that isn't too bad.
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