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Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing face of homelessness

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Considering what childcare costs, room & board sounds like a heck of a deal. As a parent, it actually doesn't sound like a bad arrangement.

It's a common arrangement for upper-middle-class families in much of Europe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Au_pair

Happened in the Midwest, too. Though my parents may have just been a tiny bit weird...

Re: Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing face of homelessness

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That's the primary example, yes. This in addition to curbing police enforcement of actual drug use and possession, from what I've heard in reporting and from officers themselves. One anecdote I've heard through my brother, who has been in law enforcement and monitors things in our old home region. He told me an officer he knew left the force because those types of restrictions were becoming untenable to deal with. Se…

What is the advantage in cycling addicts in and out of prison?

Money! Prison is a business in America.

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Because the social safety net in the US is almost totally absent. As an European that is one of the main things that keeps me away from ever wanting to work in the States, down there it looks like you're either a successful person, meaning you have a house on which you can afford to pay mortgage, which in turn means that you have a successful job which allows you to navigate the inevitable recessions, or you're alway…

I'm not sure what you're on about. The US does have social safety nets, and most people in America work okay'ish jobs and live okay'ish lives without constant nightmares.

I think what he is on about is the fact that even if the US has the safety nets you describe, it apparently isn't working.

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You can have whatever goals you like, but that doesn't entitle you to live in an area you can't afford.

What a massive oversimplification of extremely complex socioeconomic and cultural issues. Your argument is either deceptive or ignorant.

I think the basic argument here is that many of the people in careers earning significant money do not find those careers fulfilling, but chose them knowing that. Other people chose careers that ARE fulfilling, but have shit compensation. For the people in the first category, people in the second complaining about not being able to afford things sounds like wanting to have their cake and eat it too.

Careers in the arts are generally regarded as belonging to the second category for all but a handful of lottery winners.

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Because the social safety net in the US is almost totally absent. As an European that is one of the main things that keeps me away from ever wanting to work in the States, down there it looks like you're either a successful person, meaning you have a house on which you can afford to pay mortgage, which in turn means that you have a successful job which allows you to navigate the inevitable recessions, or you're alway…

Not sure why that would keep you away. By your definition a huge percentage of the population is successful.

As far as I know, most people are not successful by his definition. Almost everyone who is not rich is living paycheck-to-paycheck. There is no baseline system where working 40 to 60 hours a week guarantees a normal home/living/health situation.

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Sanitation, and sometimes (though certainly extremely rarely) infrastructure damage, as seen in the 2017 collapse of an Atlanta overpass. I don't think this is the best point to argue on, especially as it's arguing from extremes, but it's a point to consider if more examples crop up. I've heard of similar fires starting in Seattle, but with less risk since the're not being set near other material likely to catch fire…

I suspect many of the tent and tarp folks are doing it because there’s no better alternative. If cities would just build simple housing with proper sanitation (tiny houses, SROs, whatever) to get those people off the street, I’m sure that would take care of a majority of the public sanitation issues. Once you get someone into a home, it is vastly easier to help them stabilize their other issues (mental health and dru…

> If cities would just build simple housing with proper sanitation (tiny houses, SROs, whatever) to get those people off the street

I don't think it's that simple. This isn't a fixed constant set of people living on the street that you find homes for and that's the end of the problem.

It's more of a revolving door; there's a constant supply replacing whoever gets off the street.

I think what the article mentioned about Seattle is actually a reasonable approach:

  Seattle, meanwhile, has allowed some tent cities to operate as de facto communities —
  long-term, regulated, even with phone numbers and addresses.

That might be a good compromise. Provide enough infrastructure to be sanitary, like California's state campgrounds with hot showers and toilets, with the addition of mailing addresses. Give them enough stability to maintain a job and a state ID, but don't make it so comfortable as to incentivize exploitation. It's a difficult balancing act, effectively helping the homeless, without making it an attractive path of least effort.

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I'm not sure what you're on about. The US does have social safety nets, and most people in America work okay'ish jobs and live okay'ish lives without constant nightmares.

I think what he is on about is the fact that even if the US has the safety nets you describe, it apparently isn't working.

He/She should have said that then.

Re: Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing face of homelessness

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A little bit unrelated, but does anyone else get severe anxiety reading articles like this? I’m currently employed in a well-paying tech job, but it always seems like I’m just one giant disaster away from this kind of thing. Granted, I have a family “safety net” to fall back on in a worst case scenario, which I realize a lot of people don’t have, but it’s always in the back of my mind that the economy could crash, th…

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Re: Homeless, living in a tent and employed: The changing face of homelessness

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I didn't say that they have identical traits. I just wanted to take GGP's post Not all homeless people are 'bad' one step further, and I don't think it's inaccurate to say that homeless people aren't bad people . BTW GGP put bad in quotes and that makes sense (though an editor would probably strike the quotes). I think calling someone bad is reductive, as you say. As far as demonizing , the only thing in this article…

It's not a hit piece, having lived there and witnessed this on a daily basis.

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Fair enough, you were targeting a single point specifically. Bad assumption on my part.

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