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Re: Streaming video has surpassed cable subscriptions worldwide

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Non-American here. Why are cable and satellite under 2 different categories? Aren’t they the same providers, offering the same services? For example in Australia we have Foxtel, depending on where you live you will get connected to the service either by cable or with a satellite dish, so it wouldn’t make sense to put satellite and cable into different categories. Maybe in the US it’s a different situation?

Different providers typically but the same service in the end.

Re: Streaming video has surpassed cable subscriptions worldwide

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YouTube has definitely become more and more ad-ridden since its inceptions, and the ads are definitely personalized (though badly). There are now videos with multiple ad interruptions, a bit like ye olde TV. I do think one difference here is that on YouTube, if a video is full of ads, I won't keep watching long unless the content is solid and interesting. I, as a watcher, have a choice as to what I watch. Though of c…

I use YouTube Red, no ads, ever. And you get access to the entire Google music library. Can't beat it for $7.99/month.

It makes me sad your comment is being downvoted. If people aren't happy with ads, they aren't happy paying for anything, then what's the alternative? I don't see any. Those people need to get paid for their work somehow.

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YouTube has definitely become more and more ad-ridden since its inceptions, and the ads are definitely personalized (though badly). There are now videos with multiple ad interruptions, a bit like ye olde TV. I do think one difference here is that on YouTube, if a video is full of ads, I won't keep watching long unless the content is solid and interesting. I, as a watcher, have a choice as to what I watch. Though of c…

I use YouTube Red, no ads, ever. And you get access to the entire Google music library. Can't beat it for $7.99/month.

I have red, still plenty of ads.

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The attitude towards streaming and the whole video on demand idea 10-15 years ago reminds me so much on the attitude towards electric vehicles today: - Quality is too low - speed is too slow - many people want to own their movie, not just rent it - people don’t want to watch movies on a computer - the large studios and cable companies will never allow it And within little more than a decade that all changed.

Quality is still an issue for streaming. Anyone who's ever compared a blu-ray to what Netflix offers knows it's night and day, especially for grainy old films. Netflix so-called "1080p" frequently has compression artifacts, and banding (most visible in dark shots). There's also disturbing aliasing (most visible in logos and on-screen fonts, causing jagged edges) which is more reminiscent of DVD-era MPEG-2 encoding th…

It's well known that netflix is serving low quality bitrate. What they sell as HD is approaching the 480p from youtube from years ago.

It's marketing bullshit and cost savings, slapping the word HD on everything to lure the customers. Cut the bitrate to save on bandwidth costs.

Many homes don't have the 8+ Mbps required to stream high quality videos, they couldn't get HD even if they wanted to.

Re: Streaming video has surpassed cable subscriptions worldwide

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The only thing is, once the streaming market has dominated, there is nothing stopping it to also turning into crap full of advertisements. I remember when cable was cheap and as-free. The transition looks good because it has too (to lure customers away from cable). My bet is that it’s only a matter of time till “personilized ads” are forced upon you.

YouTube has definitely become more and more ad-ridden since its inceptions, and the ads are definitely personalized (though badly). There are now videos with multiple ad interruptions, a bit like ye olde TV. I do think one difference here is that on YouTube, if a video is full of ads, I won't keep watching long unless the content is solid and interesting. I, as a watcher, have a choice as to what I watch. Though of c…

I pay for Premium because I have zero tolerance for ads. I think PBS Eons, Kurgesacht, Rogan podcasts and random searches for stand-up are worth their weight in gold. I'll pass on insurance and web design ads, thanks.

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Cable is a stinking pile of sog stuff. 90% of the channels are garbage and the picture quality sucks. I recently put an old-fashioned $40 antenna in my attic. It pulls in 156 channels (I’m in OC, CA about 40mi from Mt Wilson and 80mi from San Diego). Compared with the 148 channels Spectrum provided (about 1/2 where duplicates) the quality is better on the few I watch intermittently (PBS, ABC, CBS...) The crazy thing…

The only thing is, once the streaming market has dominated, there is nothing stopping it to also turning into crap full of advertisements. I remember when cable was cheap and as-free. The transition looks good because it has too (to lure customers away from cable). My bet is that it’s only a matter of time till “personilized ads” are forced upon you.

I actually miss the good old days of cable with few ads. Turn the TV on, view your favorite channels, and you know the shows are going to be good, especially during prime time.

Re: Streaming video has surpassed cable subscriptions worldwide

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YouTube has definitely become more and more ad-ridden since its inceptions, and the ads are definitely personalized (though badly). There are now videos with multiple ad interruptions, a bit like ye olde TV. I do think one difference here is that on YouTube, if a video is full of ads, I won't keep watching long unless the content is solid and interesting. I, as a watcher, have a choice as to what I watch. Though of c…

I use YouTube Red, no ads, ever. And you get access to the entire Google music library. Can't beat it for $7.99/month.

It's YouTube Premium now, and it's $11.99/month. Also, without resorting to APK hacks I don't think it's possible to use on my Amazon Fire Stick. Otherwise I'd love to pay for YouTube to watch YouTube without advertisements.

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I use YouTube Red, no ads, ever. And you get access to the entire Google music library. Can't beat it for $7.99/month.

It makes me sad your comment is being downvoted. If people aren't happy with ads, they aren't happy paying for anything, then what's the alternative? I don't see any. Those people need to get paid for their work somehow.

It's getting downvoted because paid options grow ads, like most cable channels did. (Not all of them. I think TCM is still ad-free.)

Plus, a comment sibling to this one said YouTube Red has ads, so there's that.

Re: Streaming video has surpassed cable subscriptions worldwide

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post #68

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It makes me sad your comment is being downvoted. If people aren't happy with ads, they aren't happy paying for anything, then what's the alternative? I don't see any. Those people need to get paid for their work somehow.

It's getting downvoted because paid options grow ads, like most cable channels did. (Not all of them. I think TCM is still ad-free.) Plus, a comment sibling to this one said YouTube Red has ads, so there's that.

What does grow ads mean? FUD?

YouTube Premium is ad-free, it says so in their frontpage. Are you saying that's a blatant lie?

That doesn't address my point that content producers should get paid.

From YouTube Premium ad: "Ad-free YouTube, and our new music streaming service, YouTube Music. Services: No ads, Downloads, Background play."

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I use YouTube Red, no ads, ever. And you get access to the entire Google music library. Can't beat it for $7.99/month.

I use uBlock Origin. No ads, ever. And you get access to all the music uploaded to YouTube. $0.00/month

For many years I've used a few shell scripts to turn YouTube into a "radio" of sorts, basically going through search results for a specific term (usually a music genre) and playing each one. It works pretty well, and the only ad-like experience is when it decides to play something not-really-related-nor-actually-music that just showed up in the results, but IMHO the "what was that?" aspect is part of the fun.

I'm clearly not the only one who came up with such an idea:

https://github.com/mps-youtube/mps-youtube

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