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4chan, 8chan blocked by Australian and NZ ISPs for hosting shooting video

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Re: 4chan, 8chan blocked by Australian and NZ ISPs for hosting shooting video

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's being blocked for political reasons. Just like when the US went to war against Iraq, one argument was "Saddam is a dictator that kills his own people". But there are worse dictators before and after Saddam. You are using the same manipulative cherry-picked argument to justify censorship. Censorship is a weapon used by dictators, not free leaders.

New Zealand has decided, democratically, that we want to have a censor who does this sort of work. What would you consider to be a reasonable criteria for the censor to block a video?

Every culture has it's own definitions. The problem is that the world's cultures are mixing online, and the lowest tolerable level will win out. So, it doesn't matter what I think, it's what every combined culture, religion, government , etc... will choose.

And they will choose anything and everything that threatens their power. The actual contents don't matter.

Re: 4chan, 8chan blocked by Australian and NZ ISPs for hosting shooting video

#182

Maybe there is another reason this video is being banned. I saw this video, I made myself watch it. (judge me) Then I went back to my tv show. There were scenes of soldiers attacking the "heroes" in a bowling alley, and it made me horrified and sick. And I realized Hollywood is glorifying this shit. Hollywood is promoting shootings like this. An hour before, and this tv show was entertainment to me. Now I feel like a…

Even more disturbing is playing counter strike or another FPS after watching it. You're brain can look at the NZ shooting and a first person Counter Strike stream and it wouldn't interpret them any differently.

Re: 4chan, 8chan blocked by Australian and NZ ISPs for hosting shooting video

#183

It's good that the ISP's decided to act on their own in this case, and they weren't ordered by the courts. But can't say I am a fan of this. Why participate in censorship? Once something is on the Internet, it's not gonna go away. It's trivial to get the shooting footage for those who want to see it. Censoring is a band aid at best. These tragedies happen because of an underlying problem. Address gun laws, address xe…

>It's good that the ISP's decided to act on their own in this case, and they weren't ordered by the courts.

What? How is this good, this is obviously extremely bad. Which you also state?

Re: 4chan, 8chan blocked by Australian and NZ ISPs for hosting shooting video

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It's good that the ISP's decided to act on their own in this case, and they weren't ordered by the courts. But can't say I am a fan of this. Why participate in censorship? Once something is on the Internet, it's not gonna go away. It's trivial to get the shooting footage for those who want to see it. Censoring is a band aid at best. These tragedies happen because of an underlying problem. Address gun laws, address xe…

>It's good that the ISP's decided to act on their own in this case, and they weren't ordered by the courts. What? How is this good, this is obviously extremely bad. Which you also state?

Bad wording. It is better than being ordered by the courts, but not good.
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