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AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

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4G was supposed to achieve 100mbit peaks and I have yet to see speeds even approaching this with 4G LTE. So if somebody is enforcing advertising rules they're doing a shit job...

4G was originally supposed to be gigabit before carriers started branding LTE as 4G.

They seem to be branding LTE as even better than 4G. My phone has an "LTE" indicator on top most of the time, but it switches to "4G" when I'm in a basement parking garage with lousy reception.

I'm not sure what these terms mean, and the phone/service didn't exactly come with a user manual.

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LTE's initial iterations were actually not considered 4G by definition. Part of the longterm evolution part was that as the components were upgraded they would comply with 4G. I can break 100mbps down in a few places on an iphone SE with only a cat3 modem, but that's pushing the spec's real-world limit for that. Today these speeds are easily achievable on most networks, it's just unlikely for AT&T due to congestion a…

They were 4G by definition because the definition of 4G is the 4th generation, and LTE is *clearly" that, despite what some idiots in the ITU may try and claim. The 3G/4G/etc labels are descriptive, not prescriptive.

I was I was under the impression that hspa(?) was 4G, and LTE was ~4.5G

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#103
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Carriers don't even fully provide what 4G is capable of, yet still advertising so-called 5G. I would be okay with 50gbit 4G LTE with an unlimited plan for the next 5 years at least until they figure out their new gimmicks.

That would be awesome. I could blow through my monthly data cap in 0.68 seconds...

I like Google Fi's model. You pay for what you use. A data cap is necessary when you want to sell "unlimited" but $x/gb makes more sense.

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That would be awesome. I could blow through my monthly data cap in 0.68 seconds...

50Gbit/s = 6,25GB/s; if your cap was 25GB it would take 4 seconds.

My cap is 4GB. Verizon. :(

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They were 4G by definition because the definition of 4G is the 4th generation, and LTE is *clearly" that, despite what some idiots in the ITU may try and claim. The 3G/4G/etc labels are descriptive, not prescriptive.

I was I was under the impression that hspa(?) was 4G, and LTE was ~4.5G

HSDPA is part of 3G (3.5G if you like). LTE is 4G.

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#106

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They were 4G by definition because the definition of 4G is the 4th generation, and LTE is *clearly" that, despite what some idiots in the ITU may try and claim. The 3G/4G/etc labels are descriptive, not prescriptive.

Please don't let a phone company hear you say that, they'll roll the "g" number every year because there's a new generation of firmware. Words should, and do, mean things.

I didn't say they don't mean things. And phone companies are welcome to try and call whatever they like 5G but it doesn't make it true, any more than the ITU trying to claim some technology is or is not 5G. What makes something 5G is that it is a widely adopted technology that is a clear generation ahead of 4G. That's it. It's not complicated.

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

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Carriers don't even fully provide what 4G is capable of, yet still advertising so-called 5G. I would be okay with 50gbit 4G LTE with an unlimited plan for the next 5 years at least until they figure out their new gimmicks.

That would be awesome. I could blow through my monthly data cap in 0.68 seconds...

My last plan with AT&T I think was 10 or 15GB/month with rollover, which I had accumulated something like 30GB of data saved up over the last year.

Then one day I got a text saying I had used all my data for the month, and I thought this was quite strange.

I logged in to see the usage, and AT&T gives you an itemized bill showing data usage almost minute by minute — I think the resolution is 5 minutes intervals.

Lo and behold they claimed I used 22GB in one 5 minute interval at some random point during the afternoon that day.

I called about a half dozen times to complain and try to get it adjusted. The agents would say crazy things like, “well were you watching a video?”, or “did you download a large email attachment?”

It didn’t matter that the iPhone they said did the download showed totally normal data usage stats on the phone itself. It didn’t even matter that moving that much data in 5 minutes was technically impossible. Even when I finally got an agent to admit it must be an error and that it would be impossible to move 22GB in 5 minutes, they said they would escalate the issue and then nothing ever happened.

I never got those rollover data bytes back, and ultimately had to switch to an unlimited plan to protect from the fake overages.

So I do worry about massive theoretical maximum throughout resulting in obscene charges with no way for the customer to prove the data transfer never happened.

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That would be awesome. I could blow through my monthly data cap in 0.68 seconds...

My last plan with AT&T I think was 10 or 15GB/month with rollover, which I had accumulated something like 30GB of data saved up over the last year. Then one day I got a text saying I had used all my data for the month, and I thought this was quite strange. I logged in to see the usage, and AT&T gives you an itemized bill showing data usage almost minute by minute — I think the resolution is 5 minutes intervals. Lo an…

What the hell, I don't even think that's theoretically possible considering their network speeds. Like even if you were downloading 1 22gb file that would take hours

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Don’t most mobile carriers cap at 5GB?

No. Most unlimited plans start deprioritization after 22GB.

Nice... I need to do some shopping for mobile plans. Thanks!
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