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AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

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Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

#81

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That would be awesome. I could blow through my monthly data cap in 0.68 seconds...

50Gbit/s = 6,25GB/s; if your cap was 25GB it would take 4 seconds.

Don’t most mobile carriers cap at 5GB?

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#82
Sounds like a (theoretical, I know) solution would be to limit carriers to advertising no more than their current rolling average of download speed across all users.

No one needs mention the obvious incentivizing to cut off all of the slowest areas/device/customers.

I just think being required to report something based an 'actual' performance as opposed to 'vague technical term' could be more informative and shift all this handwaving over to a 'look, we've improved out actual throughput!' basis.

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

#84

Sounds like a (theoretical, I know) solution would be to limit carriers to advertising no more than their current rolling average of download speed across all users. No one needs mention the obvious incentivizing to cut off all of the slowest areas/device/customers. I just think being required to report something based an 'actual' performance as opposed to 'vague technical term' could be more informative and shift al…

Given all the perverse incentives involved, this seems like something the FCC should do on their own and make public.

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

#85

Sounds like a (theoretical, I know) solution would be to limit carriers to advertising no more than their current rolling average of download speed across all users. No one needs mention the obvious incentivizing to cut off all of the slowest areas/device/customers. I just think being required to report something based an 'actual' performance as opposed to 'vague technical term' could be more informative and shift al…

Median is a better measure then average.

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

#86
Bandwidth doesnt matter so much as latency. The only thing keeping me from using 4G tether as a main connection is the 150ms ping. 5G is supposed to get this under 5ms. I see no mention of latency in this study, which makes me question the source.

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

#87

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LTE's initial iterations were actually not considered 4G by definition. Part of the longterm evolution part was that as the components were upgraded they would comply with 4G. I can break 100mbps down in a few places on an iphone SE with only a cat3 modem, but that's pushing the spec's real-world limit for that. Today these speeds are easily achievable on most networks, it's just unlikely for AT&T due to congestion a…

They were 4G by definition because the definition of 4G is the 4th generation, and LTE is *clearly" that, despite what some idiots in the ITU may try and claim. The 3G/4G/etc labels are descriptive, not prescriptive.

Please don't let a phone company hear you say that, they'll roll the "g" number every year because there's a new generation of firmware. Words should, and do, mean things.

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

#88

Bandwidth doesnt matter so much as latency. The only thing keeping me from using 4G tether as a main connection is the 150ms ping. 5G is supposed to get this under 5ms. I see no mention of latency in this study, which makes me question the source.

4G should be able to give pings much lower than 150ms. The internet says 50ms I have seen even faster.

Maybe you can try another provider.

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

#89
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I've never understood that line of reasoning... Does this mean anything at all? I want to watch videos, stream music and load pages as fast as possible. This is, occasional downloads. The fact that I have 50 Gbps doesn't mean I will spend all day using 100% of it.

Presumably it comes from a combination of things, e.g. 1. Streaming higher quality video. 2. Using mobile more often instead of needing to find WiFi. 3. Changing behavior to do things that you couldn’t before on a slower connection. 4. Faster rate of consumption due to faster load times.

I do all those things, and in two months I’ve used 17 gigs on my iPhone XR. I’ve got eight devices on a Verizon unlimited plan with 25G soft cap, and I’ve never come up to the point where I’ve been throttled.

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

#90

Bandwidth doesnt matter so much as latency. The only thing keeping me from using 4G tether as a main connection is the 150ms ping. 5G is supposed to get this under 5ms. I see no mention of latency in this study, which makes me question the source.

4G should be able to give pings much lower than 150ms. The internet says 50ms I have seen even faster. Maybe you can try another provider.

I’m showing a consistent ~150ms to all nearby servers right now on T-mobile.

Either way, it’s more than 10x difference. 50ms vs 5ms is the difference between being able to game and not.

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