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There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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Who? In most of Asia trains are privatized. In Europe, the passenger rail companies are in various stages of privatization. Rail in the UK is more or less privatised. Deutche Bahn, SNCF, Trenitalia, DSB, etc., are private companies. The government is involved in the sense they are the largest or sole shareholder, but they are run as for-profit corporations. For example, they compete in other countries. Many, such as…

Nearly all the privatized rail systems share the characteristic that the government (in some fashion) still owns the underlying trackage/right-of-way. This is not a bad model: the public retains the land and tracks, and provides them for private enterprises to run trains on, subject to some sort of coordination so you don't have wrecks. That's similar to how many airports work, how the Interstate Highway System works…

> On routes where Amtrak actually controls the underlying trackage, it operates quite well. Where everything goes to shit is when Amtrak operates on others' track.

No it doesn’t. Amtrak owns the lines between Baltimore and DC. I used to commute it every day for two years and it was awful. Amtrak struggles to adequately maintain the northeast corridor, because as a result of government-imposed mandates, its operating profits from there go to subsidizing service on lines nobody uses. Similarly, Amtrak is just shitty at logistics and operations—planning around track work, giving updates about delays, keeping trains in working order, etc. Again, they have no mandate to turn a profit (unlike government owned rail lines in Europe) so they run like the DMV, rather than a rail carrier.

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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I took a train from Chicago to LA almost 20 years ago. There were 6 passenger cars attached to 60+ freight cars. There was a 20+ hours delay. All the stops were in dilapidated industrial areas. A ridiculous experience. Never again. For a transcontinental trip: drive a car or a van.

Amtrak has never run Mixed freight trains, so this must not have been on amtrak.

Alas, the pictures I took were on film, and it's been lost in various relocations. Very likely it was Amtrak, with the "sightseeing car" and all.

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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>large party of school children going on a trip on the Caltrain. Haha when I took Caltrain daily to mountain view this was my nightmare. Bluetooth headphones and a white noise app were a requirement. Those field trip days, and the rides home on baseball game days... I do not miss that commute.

If you don't mind me asking where did you move to ?

Downtown SF

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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Passenger trains do get priority in the US, your mileage may vary by railroad to how forgiving they are for schedule delays. Basically Amtrak has to keep to a specific schedule, if ut misses it's window it loses the priority it had.

Wendover did a video on this a couple years ago. Basically saying why trains suck in America. And the reason is the same: freight gets priority because Amtrak does not own the track, freight companies do. https://youtu.be/mbEfzuCLoAQ

It’s the law that passenger trains should get priority, but actual enforcement of this law is nonexistent, and Amtrak does not have as much money to spend on counsel.

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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Don't sweat! We've got a wonderful car culture here in America, AM I RIGHT!?

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News?

I don't consider bashing a toxic-unsustainable transport culture unsubstantive.

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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This post will get downvoted so much but as a female who grew up on welfare, the first one in my family to graduate from high school, with a degree in electrical engineering and now self taught crappy but getting better software engineer, I literally want to cry knowing this antagonistic response os still the default of the heartbeat in tech.

If anyone eants real stories about what its like for a female in hardcore tech not a priveleged woman in pro women tech events all the time (and honestly, traumatised to go in fear of the dillemma of how do I encourage women while simultaneously warning them of what an emotioal nightmare it is wading through biases much like the ones that exist in this conversation but not as a one off hn comment threads but interwoven in the fabric of your everyday interactions with coworkers, tech scene friends and original first impression to college peers) while not diacouraging them that hey deapitw the building, the perao al dignity you'll gain from prpving yourself if your willing to put in the effort and quite honestly lets be real, the security that financially you'll never hage to depend on a man, that the day he hits you you can take you and your children and leave his sorry ass behind and never have to worry about money or atleast meeting the basic needs of your family, is nkt the high money whire rich men on wallstreet feel bjt its a high you should feel everyday when you wake up in the morning when you ask yourself what is the minimum level of bullshit your willing to put up with and what is not, is forever worth it.

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News?

I don't consider bashing a toxic-unsustainable transport culture unsubstantive.

What makes it unsubstantive is the low signal/noise ratio of your own comment. Happening to be right, such as when criticizing something evil or dumb, doesn't by itself add to that.

Also, you've posted a lot of these unsubstantive comments. Could you please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the spirit of this site more to heart? We'd be grateful. These other links also might help:

https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

https://news.ycombinator.com/hackernews.html

http://www.paulgraham.com/trolls.html

http://www.paulgraham.com/hackernews.html

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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My (now) wife and I took the Empire Builder from Seattle to Chicago about 10 years ago. We purchased a private cabin. We were 8 hours late leaving Seattle and couldn't get into our cabin until we got to Spokane because of some sort of merge of trains coming from Portland and Seattle. Got to Spokane, got our cabin, another 6 hour delay. By the time we reached the upper Midwest, they were rationing food, literally cutt…

For those that don't know, the Empire Builder from Seattle stops in Spokane to hook up with a train that is coming from Portland. The combined train then goes all the way to Chicago. If either are delayed it can result in waiting for the other and long delays are apparently the norm and not the exception. My wife and her grandfather took the train from Portland to Minnesota in the fall of last year. There were a numb…

You would probably have a better experience renting and entire rail car and shipping it as cargo across the US.

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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Headline like this won't get me to read the article. There's plenty of reason to cross the country by train. You could be afraid of planes. You could just really like trains. You could like to see the country from the ground. Maybe it's a romantic experience or journey. Who knows, but there are certainly really good reasons travel across the country the way you want to.

Re: There is no reason to cross the U.S. by train, but I did it anyway

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Last year my sister had a week off and took the Empire Builder across the country out west. Lots of talk about how the sleeper car is worth it and I remembered she didn't, so I asked her her take and this is the response: "I traveled alone on the Empire Builder from Milwaukee to Portland, Oregon (two nights/almost 48 hours) in June 2018. I wanted to get a sleeper car but waited too long to book so my only option was…

> earplugs an eye mask where key Oh shoot, I hadn't thought of this. I like the idea of trying a long/sleeper train trip, but I'm a terribly light sleeper and I bet I would get almost no sleep :(
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