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Wow. I go AFK for a few hours (orchestra concert, fundraiser for something) and when I come back online I see this thread. I click on it, all ready to type out a comment saying "I kinda like this tool I wrote for myself, called Tarsnap"... and I find that the top comment, with 3x as many points as any others, is recommending Tarsnap. I love my users.
Seriously, consider writing a client for Windows and your business should increase 10 folds.
Ask HN: What's your favorite online-backup tool?
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Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite online-backup tool?
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love tarsnap, but seriously... someone please make a web-gui (you can paste your ssh keys in a webpage a la github) or atleast a java gui. It does get to be too painful sometimes.
Wouldn't you have to upload at least a read-only subkey of your tarsnap key not your ssh key. Github works because sshd only requires a copy of the public key to be stored to log in with the private key. This would destroy the secure model of tarsnap. If you truly want this then don't use tarsnap use dropbox.
In my (very) limited knowledge - I am able to do retrieve backups on my machine using my key, which I supply to the command line. I was thinking of how it would work in a web based environment. Perhaps I could copy paste my key into a textbox, and I could retrieve my backups from a webpage. This would only last for the session (tarsnap would not store the key).
I know that you can think of a million ways that this can be exploited, but that is MY cross to bear. If I am prepared to do this, because I need immediate access to my backups from another machine - then please let me do this (basically, give me a way to access and create my backups in less than two steps).
I personally do believe that this would be a killer feature.
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Seriously, consider writing a client for Windows and your business should increase 10 folds.
Tarsnap will support windows eventually. But seriously, if Tarsnap usage increases tenfold overnight, the service will collapse under the load the following morning. Making sure that the service keeps running smoothly takes priority over attracting new users.
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...when they are provided with your password.
If you forget your password, can Dropbox reset it for you? If they reset your password for you, can you still read your data? If the answer to both of these is "yes", then dropbox can read your data without you providing your password. (Honest questions -- I don't use Dropbox, so don't know.)
Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite online-backup tool?
#65We used to recommend Backblaze to our clients (and set a few up with it), but when they announced a while back that they had entertained a purchase offer, I pulled the plug on that. I can't in good conscience recommend an online backup service that's not in it for the long haul. We now try to get people set up with Carbonite, mostly because of its pricing, ease-of-use, and compatibility with most platforms. I'd love…
You may like SpiderOak's white label program: https://spideroak.com/partners/ (I cofounded SpiderOak in 2006.)
We were looking for an offer where we would handle support and invoicing of our clients, with compatibility for Windows and Mac, while being able to keep costs under $10/month/client. We're happy to tell our clients about the service we're using.
Pretty much everything seemed to break on one of those points; either the service wanted to do the invoicing, or it was prohibitively expensive.
Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite online-backup tool?
#66It used to be that a backup was a full or image backup. It is a bit funny how I used to say I have a backup and it meant a backup of my entire computer. If I didn't, I'd say I had a backup of the database, or a backup of home. Now if someone says I have a backup I assume it is just of some of their files.
There are really now three types of backups.
Image or full backups - These are far more useful. You can actually fix your computer without reinstalling and reconfiguring everything.
Partial backups - Files and Folders, unfortunately letting the software try to select the "Important Files" is fatally flawed on windows. They generally select based on file name and location. If you use any software slightly off mainstream you will want to make sure those data files are backed up.
Sync - Sync software maintains a copy online which is good for most files and is essentially an extra copy or backup. But some files or directory structures are troublesome like build directories, databases (especially email databases like outlook pst files). Make sure they support multiple versions...
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I wrote Hybir Backup https://www.hybir.com It is windows only for now. Hybir Backup performs full online backups and full local backups (simultaneously). Bare metal restores can be done from the windows PE 3.0 recovery environment.
The interesting part to the technology is the data identification and global data de-duplication technology. Essentially only data unique to your PC needs to be uploaded. First backups on relatively clean machines are pretty quick. If you have a bunch of unique user data, you will have to upload it just like the other services. The advantage is all of those other files are backed up too.
During a full restore only files that are truly different need to be restored to fix the computer greatly speeding the restore process when a computer won't boot, but the disk is still functional hardware wise.
Another cool feature is that if you backup online only, and need to do a bare metal restore, you don't have to download the full image. You can simply backup another PC to a USB drive. You probably need another PC to burn the recovery CD you didn't burn before the problem anyway. Any data that is common and identical on the USB drive will be copied from the USB drive. The unique bits will be downloaded at the same time. You have a fairly good chance of not having to download the OS, MS Office, etc.
The software is free to use for local image backup and supports network drives. It works great for a small office environment and includes the data identification technology. This makes it really efficient storage wise. It is probably the only free local backup solution that has global data de-duplication.
Re: Ask HN: What's your favorite online-backup tool?
#67Tarsnap. Simple, cheap, efficient, honestly secure. I can't imagine storing personal files and photos somewhere "out there", managed by someone else, in readable form. Seriously, how do you Dropbox (etc) fans sleep at night?
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#70Earlier quoted context omitted.
...when they are provided with your password.
If you forget your password, can Dropbox reset it for you? If they reset your password for you, can you still read your data? If the answer to both of these is "yes", then dropbox can read your data without you providing your password. (Honest questions -- I don't use Dropbox, so don't know.)
Besides, there is much more to cryptography and building a secured system than just using that crypto suit or another (e.g. AES256-HMAC-SHA256 etc.)