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AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

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Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

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Are there rules for enforcing (and by whom?) the term “5G”? Or is it like the word “natural” for health food?

4G was supposed to achieve 100mbit peaks and I have yet to see speeds even approaching this with 4G LTE. So if somebody is enforcing advertising rules they're doing a shit job...

Ookla just told me I am getting 85Mbps download and 11Mbps upload on AT&T LTE.

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

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Are there rules for enforcing (and by whom?) the term “5G”? Or is it like the word “natural” for health food?

4G was supposed to achieve 100mbit peaks and I have yet to see speeds even approaching this with 4G LTE. So if somebody is enforcing advertising rules they're doing a shit job...

4G was originally supposed to be gigabit before carriers started branding LTE as 4G.

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"All four major carriers have rolled out LTE-Advanced. But while Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile accurately call it 4G, AT&T calls it 5G E." "AT&T's network name change may well trick consumers into thinking they're getting better service than a 4G operator, but they aren't. We already knew that 5G E has no technological advantage over LTE-Advanced, because they are the same thing with different names." Doesn't that me…

It’s not clickbait. AT&T is pretending to have 5G when it doesn’t. This is worth reporting.

They’ve done this all the way back to 4G. I know because I used to sell cellphones when I was I college. It was 3G but they called it 4G. They’ve done that with every new iteration. It’s ATT being ATT. Why they haven’t gotten in trouble for this shady practice is beyond me.

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

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Are there rules for enforcing (and by whom?) the term “5G”? Or is it like the word “natural” for health food?

4G was supposed to achieve 100mbit peaks and I have yet to see speeds even approaching this with 4G LTE. So if somebody is enforcing advertising rules they're doing a shit job...

I'm on AT&T (personal phone) and I get 4.5M bits down on LTE. My Verizon LTE (work phone) gets very similar. Both are iPhones and completely up to date.

I could be near enough to the towers that my fillings start to ache and I still can't get any faster.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

4G was supposed to achieve 100mbit peaks and I have yet to see speeds even approaching this with 4G LTE. So if somebody is enforcing advertising rules they're doing a shit job...

I'm on AT&T (personal phone) and I get 4.5M bits down on LTE. My Verizon LTE (work phone) gets very similar. Both are iPhones and completely up to date. I could be near enough to the towers that my fillings start to ache and I still can't get any faster.

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Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not clickbait. AT&T is pretending to have 5G when it doesn’t. This is worth reporting.

They’ve done this all the way back to 4G. I know because I used to sell cellphones when I was I college. It was 3G but they called it 4G. They’ve done that with every new iteration. It’s ATT being ATT. Why they haven’t gotten in trouble for this shady practice is beyond me.

Massive amounts of money and a complicit FCC?

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Are there rules for enforcing (and by whom?) the term “5G”? Or is it like the word “natural” for health food?

5GNR (3GPP release 15) is the official globally recognized standard for 5G. Guessing 3GPP has some loose enforcement but not sure. http://www.3gpp.org/release-15

In the US, ITU will just move the goalposts for 4G like they did for 3G when AT&T changed the hspa+ indicator to 4G.

3GPP has no teeth here.

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s not clickbait. AT&T is pretending to have 5G when it doesn’t. This is worth reporting.

They’ve done this all the way back to 4G. I know because I used to sell cellphones when I was I college. It was 3G but they called it 4G. They’ve done that with every new iteration. It’s ATT being ATT. Why they haven’t gotten in trouble for this shady practice is beyond me.

Last time "4G" HSPA was legitimately faster than 4G WiMax but this time they have no excuse (so far).

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

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Are there rules for enforcing (and by whom?) the term “5G”? Or is it like the word “natural” for health food?

4G was supposed to achieve 100mbit peaks and I have yet to see speeds even approaching this with 4G LTE. So if somebody is enforcing advertising rules they're doing a shit job...

Just got 140Mbps in London https://i.imgur.com/DFpZAg8.png

Re: AT&T’s “5G E” is slower than Verizon and T-Mobile 4G, study finds

#20

Are there rules for enforcing (and by whom?) the term “5G”? Or is it like the word “natural” for health food?

4G was supposed to achieve 100mbit peaks and I have yet to see speeds even approaching this with 4G LTE. So if somebody is enforcing advertising rules they're doing a shit job...

LTE's initial iterations were actually not considered 4G by definition. Part of the longterm evolution part was that as the components were upgraded they would comply with 4G. I can break 100mbps down in a few places on an iphone SE with only a cat3 modem, but that's pushing the spec's real-world limit for that.

Today these speeds are easily achievable on most networks, it's just unlikely for AT&T due to congestion and their poor network and spectrum planning. It helps to spend money on capex instead of buying up shitty Mexican carriers and DirecTV to stem the flow of fleeing customers.

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