One can't help but wonder if this line of thinking is in some part a consequence of Google's decision to put US government contracts on hold due to ethical concerns from its workers.
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#12Google should embark on somerhing else in total, at least to get some of My respect. They are such an infantile company it seems.
Good point. How about getting DeepMind to automatically reduce my taxes?
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#13Google should embark on somerhing else in total, at least to get some of My respect. They are such an infantile company it seems.
Companies aren’t people, they don’t act like people and don’t have a person’s motivation. It’s a dangerous thing to talk or think as if they were. Companies like Google are a collection of people serving their own interests and desire to stay in power first and foremost, sometimes (if not often) at cross purposes with other people in the company doing the same.
Incidentally the same is true of nations.
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#14Well, when you have a company for which a large majority of its employees are from countries outside of the U.S., some of which are extremely nationalist and hold anti-American views, you will end up having some decisions made that are anti-American.
EDIT: To the down-voters, I don't think you are understanding my post. I have worked with plenty of people who would love to see the downfall of the U.S. Many of the these people are foreign workers. Many of these people hold upper leadership positions in companies in Silicon Valley. Now, what do you think they would say given the chance to work with the U.S. military?
EDIT2: To the person that flagged my post - this is why we can't ever have a critical conversation about things that actually matter.
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#15I think it's ironic that partnerships with the Pentagon get axed, but projects with an authoritarian state go forward. Seems like a double standard.
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#16It's amazing what companies will put up with if China only hints at giving them "access to the Chinese market". https://9to5google.com/2019/03/21/nokia-7-plus-sending-data-... https://www.lightreading.com/mobile/5g/nokia-at-risk-of-chin...
Perverse incentives. Stock goes down if you have low growth or miss expectations, and China is such a huge unaccessible market that would be easy gains if the door was opened.
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#17What military advantage does Google give the U.S. government?
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#18If ever there were a reason to get politicians on the side of breaking up Google (or any other tech company), I imagine this would be it.
The smaller companies would have even less inclined to ignore a market of a billion people.
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#19As much as there are things that are suspect in terms of the health and privacy of humanity inherent in Google's business model, I don't know why they get singled out. I did some consulting work for a company. It is private firm that is a subsidiary of a subsidiary of a subsidiary that isn't an American firm. Yet it has tech in the most sensitive places within the US government and DOD. And the US defence firms? Well, they are multinationals and (for money because there is no loyalty) will provide info/data/tech to anyone. Why would they do this? Because if Iran or China or Russia catches up with us, the US government will just give them more money to stay ahead.
The out of control capitalism in the US is the biggest threat to the health, wellbeing and security of its citizens. Google is just a symptom.
And for the record, I am not a communist. I believe human being need some (healthy) competition and that you should be able to work harder or smarter and get ahead. Just not to the extremes we have developed.
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#20This article seems like a lot of speculating and throwing wild theories at the wall. It a big eye-catching headline with very little substance.
I understand how Google's unwillingness to participate in DoD programs can impact the US military, but I don't understand the Google/China connection.
Does anyone know what the "artificial intelligence venture" is referring to? Is it Dragonfly? I don't see how an exploratory program to bring Search, being developed outside of China, applies at all to this situation.