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Ad Fraud Scheme Drained Users’ Batteries By Running Hidden Video Ads In Android

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Re: Ad Fraud Scheme Drained Users’ Batteries By Running Hidden Video Ads In Android

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Post by ndnxhs »

roenxi wrote: post #56
AngryData wrote: post #20

Advertising is a scourge upon society.

Voters are also usually not responsible enough to handle democracy either, and yet here we are. 1) If you don't tell people about your product, they won't know about it and probably won't use it. Word of mouth is ok, but it is surprising how many people are left uncertain and in the dark about what their options are if they aren't directly told what their options are. 2) Without advertising, the internet collapses. G…

The internet existed before advertising and it could continue to exist without it. People still desire instant communication and they would pay for it if a free option did not exist.

A lot of garbage like Facebook would fall and real social networks would take place with real interactions not algorithms trying to drive fake engagement.

Re: Ad Fraud Scheme Drained Users’ Batteries By Running Hidden Video Ads In Android

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Post by mirimir »

shtam wrote: post #50
mirimir wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hey, there are no ad blockers for apps, right? Messing with other apps is a ToS violation for both Google and Apple, as I recall. Edit: OK, you can. But not with other apps from the official stores.

You can with Adguard

But it's not available from Google or Apple stores.

Re: Ad Fraud Scheme Drained Users’ Batteries By Running Hidden Video Ads In Android

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Post by TomMarius »

ndnxhs wrote: post #61
roenxi wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voters are also usually not responsible enough to handle democracy either, and yet here we are. 1) If you don't tell people about your product, they won't know about it and probably won't use it. Word of mouth is ok, but it is surprising how many people are left uncertain and in the dark about what their options are if they aren't directly told what their options are. 2) Without advertising, the internet collapses. G…

The internet existed before advertising and it could continue to exist without it. People still desire instant communication and they would pay for it if a free option did not exist. A lot of garbage like Facebook would fall and real social networks would take place with real interactions not algorithms trying to drive fake engagement.

I don't agree. The internet definitely did not exist in any form that would be today seen as sufficient ever before. The sheer scale makes it impossible, advertising is the only way poor people could afford it and pay for it without paying money at the same time (so the developer now has a new option too). The options these companies that exist thanks to ads gave to all businesses in my country are enormous and have definitely helped greatly to grow our GDP (I live in the country with the greatest number of online stores per citizen). I love Facebook and Google for the options their advertising platforms have created for people (however not being ethical is not cool at all).

Re: Ad Fraud Scheme Drained Users’ Batteries By Running Hidden Video Ads In Android

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Post by hannob »

It is interesting how this article starts. A guy has an app which drains users batteries. But it's not his fault of course, because it's the ad company. Except the ad company says it's not their fault, because the ad came from some other company.

This fingerpointing points to one of the core problems of the ad industry: They created a system where nobody knows who's responsible for anything, so malware and fraud has an easy time.

But this mode of thinking makes no sense. If you put ads in your app YOU are responsible. If you use an ad service from a shady company that outsources to other shady companies then you're still responsible.

Re: Ad Fraud Scheme Drained Users’ Batteries By Running Hidden Video Ads In Android

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Post by Reason077 »

Isn’t the real issue here a technical one with MoPub’s ad platform?

How is it possible that a banner ad can open hidden off-screen views, and play video ads using a different (fraudulent) publisher ID? Can’t banners be sandboxed in order to prevent such activity, or at least detect it?

Re: Ad Fraud Scheme Drained Users’ Batteries By Running Hidden Video Ads In Android

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Post by vermilingua »

scrollaway wrote: post #52
baybal2 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

May well be, but that still means that non-extreme-ads are on the way out...

People used to really notice when a movie, TV programme or video game was violent. Blood, graphic death, etc. As those things became more common and more extreme, people stopped noticing. Now we don't really talk about it at all anymore. Does that mean non-violent movies and video games are on their way out? (No it does not.)

And yet, the raison d'etre of movies and video games is not to be noticed. For advertising, it is. If the non-extreme forms of advertising are not being noticed, it means they are indeed dying out.

Re: Ad Fraud Scheme Drained Users’ Batteries By Running Hidden Video Ads In Android

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Post by black-tea »

roenxi wrote: post #56
AngryData wrote: post #20

Advertising is a scourge upon society.

Voters are also usually not responsible enough to handle democracy either, and yet here we are. 1) If you don't tell people about your product, they won't know about it and probably won't use it. Word of mouth is ok, but it is surprising how many people are left uncertain and in the dark about what their options are if they aren't directly told what their options are. 2) Without advertising, the internet collapses. G…

The Internet would not collapse. We pay our ISPs for a connexion. They don't give a crap whether we're using Google or not.

Re: Ad Fraud Scheme Drained Users’ Batteries By Running Hidden Video Ads In Android

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Post by stestagg »

hannob wrote: post #65

It is interesting how this article starts. A guy has an app which drains users batteries. But it's not his fault of course, because it's the ad company. Except the ad company says it's not their fault, because the ad came from some other company. This fingerpointing points to one of the core problems of the ad industry: They created a system where nobody knows who's responsible for anything, so malware and fraud has…

Just as if you were to buy a child’s toy that has a secret embedded camera that streams to some foreign server.

It may be the manufacturers fault, but the person who sold it to you (the provider) is liable.

Should be the same here

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