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Re: US Army applying new areas of math

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That's not a very charitable response. Obviously the OP's social circle will know better than that because they know him (or her) and what they actually work on. Among the general public there's a real stereotype about DOD work. When I mention to strangers that I work for a defense contractor, they more often than not assume I'm working on bombs or something like that. Not every time, but often enough that I'm used t…

> they more often than not assume I'm working on bombs > I only work on mapping software In fairness, those maps are likely used to ensure the bombs go where they should.

To be more fair, better maps means better targeting and less collateral damage. And the software can also used for logistics, base planning, humanitarian missions, rescue missions, etc.

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You say he is joking, but that person does know. I work at a research lab and at our yearly reviews, we have to day how our work directly contributes to a war fighting capacity. If that person thinks they do not contribute they are very seriously naïve or they are filling themselves. Military labs do not try to make euphemisms for what they do, they want to make sure they directly contribute to a war fighting capabil…

There are varying degrees of "military lab," my favorite example being the National Ignition Facility.

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Re: US Army applying new areas of math

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I think the political situation in many of those countries speaks volumes. There are very few countries or peoples which have a genuinely positive view of Western occupation. Most countries that have a positive view of "Western" nations above Russia are the ones that are bribed (weapon contracts, free defense, release of political pressure) or bullied (application of political pressure) to have it. If you spend some…

> There are very few countries or peoples which have a genuinely positive view of Western occupation. On the other hand, let's consider how popular inter-Asian occupation was.

Or let's not, because this discussion doesn't have anything to do with how they view each other as neighbors - it's about perceptions towards "Western" occupation vs. Russian occupation.

Re: US Army applying new areas of math

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There are varying degrees of "military lab," my favorite example being the National Ignition Facility.

Heh, can you say more about it? That is true. I am military and I work in a true military lab, so I probably have a different perspective

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Re: US Army applying new areas of math

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To be very honest, count me in as one of these. I am someone who works for a gov't lab, but I do "very pure" scientific research. It's not that our research doesn't have "defense applications," it might eventually, but we are definitely a few steps removed from say CFD modeling of airplane wings. The thing is traditional sources of funding suck, and gov't labs give researchers a much better environment than the endle…

Yeah, traditional sources suck, in America; universities should be way more tightly controlled, in a decent society taking 56% of grant money should put some people in jail. In the year 2019 working for the US military should feel embarrassing, after the Iraq fiasco, support to journalist-killer Saudi crown prince; support to genociders that use child soldiers such as Idriss Déby (Chad), plus many other mistakes make…

There is danger in inaction. Note that US soil isn't often annexed.

This damned thread has triggered all my pent up jingoism.

"America makes prodigious mistakes, America has colossal faults, but one thing cannot be denied: America is always on the move. She may be going to Hell, of course, but at least she isn't standing still. " -- e.e. cummings

If you take orders for a living, your job is to be on the move. Not to be right. Ain't no one who matters who has time for being 100% in the right.

Re: US Army applying new areas of math

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As someone who also is a military researcher, I may be able to help. I have worked on things that if the USA went to war, I know that I have directly contributed to that war. I truly hate that my research will contribute to killing. I wish that it wasn't necessary. But as events like Crimea annexation and the South China Sea shows, if the USA is not there, then other nations are very happy to use their might to boss…

I agree with you, but it's not so black and white. The atomic bomb is a notable example, and consider Eisenhower and many other military leaders said "there was no reason to use that awful thing." I realize my high school education, and most othet's, led me to believe this wasn't the case. I'm not trying to say it's wrong, but it deserves a lot of skepticism.

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Re: US Army applying new areas of math

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post #99

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I think the political situation in many of those countries speaks volumes. There are very few countries or peoples which have a genuinely positive view of Western occupation. Most countries that have a positive view of "Western" nations above Russia are the ones that are bribed (weapon contracts, free defense, release of political pressure) or bullied (application of political pressure) to have it. If you spend some…

> There are very few countries or peoples which have a genuinely positive view of Western occupation. On the other hand, let's consider how popular inter-Asian occupation was.

It depends. If you are comparing it to the one that nearly wiped out the native population on two continents and plundered two more, even the occupation of Korea and China by Japan suddenly starts looking rather attractive, which is a very scary thought, btw

Re: US Army applying new areas of math

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post #99

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> There are very few countries or peoples which have a genuinely positive view of Western occupation. On the other hand, let's consider how popular inter-Asian occupation was.

Or let's not, because this discussion doesn't have anything to do with how they view each other as neighbors - it's about perceptions towards "Western" occupation vs. Russian occupation.

Well, it felt like a complaint about Western vs non-Western occupation. Let's restrict non-Western to Russian as you suggest. You go first. How about you opine on Russian vs Western occupation?

Re: US Army applying new areas of math

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> I just am embarrassed when I tell people I work for the military because they think I make bombs or something. Personally, I don't understand this, but I'm from an ex-Eastern Bloc country which I was all too happy to escape. I'd rather the US (and the rest of the Western world) made bombs than only Russia and China did. Vacuums of power in the world will always be filled and a Western invasion/expeditionary force i…

As someone who also is a military researcher, I may be able to help. I have worked on things that if the USA went to war, I know that I have directly contributed to that war. I truly hate that my research will contribute to killing. I wish that it wasn't necessary. But as events like Crimea annexation and the South China Sea shows, if the USA is not there, then other nations are very happy to use their might to boss…

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