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Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills

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Re: Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills

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The panicked, reckless nonsense of "active shooter drills" is eventually going to get someone actually killed.

(Compare: the DEA agent who shot himself while talking to a classroom about gun safety:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNa5n2I_DUw

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/safety-first/ )

Re: Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills

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>This is what happens if you just cower and do nothing

You sure? Because even when I was in the military, they trained us to respond to security events by locking our area down rather than running into the fight unless we were designated responders. Sounds to me like the cops just wanted to fire their fancy training pellet guns at someone.

Re: Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills

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post #2

The panicked, reckless nonsense of "active shooter drills" is eventually going to get someone actually killed. (Compare: the DEA agent who shot himself while talking to a classroom about gun safety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNa5n2I_DUw https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/safety-first/ )

Some of the ones which are done during the school day, involving students, sound horrific: Active-Shooter Drills Are Tragically Misguided, https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/active-...

Re: Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills

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post #2

The panicked, reckless nonsense of "active shooter drills" is eventually going to get someone actually killed. (Compare: the DEA agent who shot himself while talking to a classroom about gun safety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNa5n2I_DUw https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/safety-first/ )

Why the hell is the gun loaded?!

Re: Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills

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This whole situation is absurd, and the idea of passing a law explicitly banning intentionally injuring a teacher during a training drill is the cherry on top.

It sounds like this whole training activity is being run by idiots that don't actually know anything about or respect gun safety. Shooting someone unexpectedly with an air soft gun is already illegal. If the teachers signed a liability waiver making it okay, it's on the teachers for willingly participating in a clearly stupid and dangerous activity. If they didn't, then the injured teachers should hire a lawyer and sue...

Re: Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills

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post #2

The panicked, reckless nonsense of "active shooter drills" is eventually going to get someone actually killed. (Compare: the DEA agent who shot himself while talking to a classroom about gun safety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNa5n2I_DUw https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/safety-first/ )

That is terribly ironic. Why did he use a loaded gun again.

Re: Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills

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"During active shooter drill, four teachers at a time were taken into a room, told to crouch down and were shot execution style with some sort of projectiles - resulting in injuries to the extent that welts appeared, and blood was drawn. ... The Indiana State Teachers Association is lobbying lawmakers to add language prohibiting teachers from being shot with any sort of ammunition to a school safety bill working its way through the Statehouse."

I feel like existing laws should cover this. If they need a new law so specific to this situation, I'd worry there's nothing covering many other situations.

Can they press charges for assault? That'd send a clear message.

Re: Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills

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post #2

The panicked, reckless nonsense of "active shooter drills" is eventually going to get someone actually killed. (Compare: the DEA agent who shot himself while talking to a classroom about gun safety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNa5n2I_DUw https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/safety-first/ )

Some of the ones which are done during the school day, involving students, sound horrific: Active-Shooter Drills Are Tragically Misguided, https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/03/active-...

This feels like a weird thing to say but exposing students (or anyone) to this seems like a really bad idea. By letting them experience that kind of terror, I feel it may give anyone with sociopathic tendencies 'ideas' and may influence them to seek that kind of control over others. We're all just the sum of our experiences and giving young impressionable kids terrifying experiences in the pursuit of protecting them from something that is statistically incredibly unlikely seems like a good way to make it statistically less incredibly unlikely.

Re: Teachers unknowingly shot with plastic pellets during active shooter drills

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post #5
post #2

The panicked, reckless nonsense of "active shooter drills" is eventually going to get someone actually killed. (Compare: the DEA agent who shot himself while talking to a classroom about gun safety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNa5n2I_DUw https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/safety-first/ )

Why the hell is the gun loaded?!

Why was it even real? It's a school. If you really need to do demonstrations, get a plastic prop gun.
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